Confirmed that you have to wait yet another week. It is then down to responsible councillors to decide whether to throw more of the council tax payers money down the pan.

Call me selfish but I'd much rather my taxes went towards helping keep our club afloat than it being paid out to benefit scroungers etc. (please note I do not consider everyone on benefits a "scrounger" but let's be honest there are plenty who are more than capable of working who choose not to)



Salfprd needs a sporting identity. Barton should be the hub of the Salford sporting community and the facilities used by as many local schools/organisations as possible. I'd have loved to have seen Salford City playing at the ground as well as I see no reason why a city the size of Salford can't sustain a half decent Football team even with Utd and City on our doorstep,

Tell that to the hundreds of council workers who will lose they're jobs just so you have a mediocre rugby team to support.
How can we have a club to be proud of knowing that its causing such trouble to good hardworking people?
You think this will encourage the people of Salford to support the club? Of course not. All it will do is cause a bigger divide between the club and those it is trying to encourage through the gates.
Anyone who thinks our club is worth taking food out of childrens mouths is an idiot!

Of course it will get passed. Failure to do so would unquestionably result in administration since clearly there are issues with your "investor" if this happens the council loose the lot. This is as pointed out a stay of execution,hopeful that a benefactor comes forward sooner rather than later.

As more and more comes out in the wash is it now fair to conclude that we have been diabolically run for years from a financial perspective?

What in particular are you referring to?

Not trying to argue, I suspect you're right, but I've not seen anything more than the tax man's claim, and the winding up petition all of which has been known about for some time

Today's MEN has Karen Garrido saying the club's debt to the council is £2.2M (she's a tory so it coudl be a lie), add that to the stuff about teh Foundation, the stuff players say they're owed, and teh tax bill and it gets a lot worse than the previously believed situation that was "it doesn't really matter, the only debt is to the board".

Cracking overreaction even by the standards of this forum. Hundreds of people losing their jobs to fund this loan and food being taken from the mouths of children? Have you been teleported in from Dickensian times?

This does not take away from the shameful embarrassment of the whole episode. I'm with SaleSlim though. Of course I'd still rather have a club to support and to represent Salford in a year's time and call me optimistic I don't think it will result in the reopening of the workhouse. Good to see the council showing some foresight and defending it's only professional sports club.

They can't be seen to be throwing good money after bad. Most of the council tax payers have no interest whether the club survives or not, they do care about services getting cut. I think it will just go through, but it isn't as straightforward has you might think. If no investor comes forward then the club is still likely to end up in administration in 12 months anyway, but owing the council an extra 750k. Its a risk for the council in the current climate.

If anything, the MEN article has taught me never to read the comments on there again. Seems it's just full of bitter people who don't give a monkeys about a club that represents the city at a professional sporting level - and that's regardless of any opinion one way or another on the council cash being used.

Don't councils usually have budgets for specific areas, anyway? So the money to cover loans to businesses (i.e. Salford) would be in a separate budget line to jobs and the like? I'm not saying it's right (nor am I saying it's wrong) but it seems people aren't looking at it logically. Not than many do on these things...

GT is it the council's job to subsidise a private company which has not turned a profit for the last 20+ years?
If so, then why not prop up every ailing business in the city?
I'm afraid it speaks volumes that despite the discussions that have been going on for seemingly ages, no private investor has been found with the cash and vision to take the club forward.
I'm feeling increasingly pessimistic about our survival chances, I truly hope I'm wrong.

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Regardless of the political sword-wavering at hand by an opposition councilor, the comments section should be a worry for fans of the Club.

I realise they are representative of just a few, but it's going to be hard for our Club when a large majority of Salfordians could not give a toss about one of their Premier sporting teams and the benefits a successful Salford could bring in.

It's quite depressing actually.

The council shouldn't have to bail out the local sport's team but the government shouldn't have to bail out the banks or the car industry or whoever else has been bailed out over the years. Needs must in some circumstances and I'd argue there is an additional intrinsic good to be derived from sport over and above that gained from business. Obviously Salford have detonated any goodwill towards them and like others have said it will be a long road back. I agree with your pessimistic forecast.

BF, I said I wasn't suggesting the council were either right or wrong on the subject. As it is, I can see both sides of the argument - I can see the importance of having a top flight professional sports club with the Salford name attached and I can see why people would be annoyed at the council loaning money to Salford in the current climate.

I find it hard to disagree with the rest of your post.

I do think Garrido's a bellend, though...

Who is going to buy us what do we have to offer we don't own the stadium we have a management that don't give a do about its supporters. A club so miss managed that any business person is going to luck at us twice. If there was real interest would have bought us out by now. We have as well nowt to offer we never make play-offs so there if no extra finance coming in and we only win 7-8 games average a season so where are selling points I see none we could not get extra support giving free tickets or anything else. To be honest we ain't got on positive that would give any one looking at it and just say not a chance. It says it all when a club takes a loan that it can't afford so how bloody daft is this club just brain dead. I for one as lost interest how many more will follow. We are going backwards not forwards. The club is finnish it will not last a season on that loan

Jesus H Christ, will you either learn to spell or stop posting the same old bobbins over and over again? It's bad enough seeing you constantly repeat that you're not coming anymore (fine, f**k off and leave us to it) but when it's written in such a poor excuse for English it's utterly embarrassing. Then again, the same could be said for most of the completely anti-club people on here (I'm not talking about the balanced realists, neither).

At least The optimist's illiteracy is positive.

maybe we could get an additional loan from the Mayor of Helsinki...

I pay the council tax to Salford and I can't disagree with many of the comments on that site. If it is a different fund maybe I can understand it, but there are probably better companies which impact on the whole City than Salford to invest in. I'd love the council to throw money at the club but realistically at present I don't see it as fair.

We need a turn over of at least double the cap to function at any level.

I wonder if Peel want us to go into Administration or would they rather Receivership and start a new debt free club.

My guess is that Peel don't want us at all - after all they are a property development and management company - I'd bet the only reason they are prepared to go 50/50 with the council is to secure further "goodwill" re developments in the Salford area. If we do go into receivership I can't see Peel being involved in a Rugby League start up!!!!!

Council workers lose jobs in areas devoid of a rugby league club.
I didn't notice too much anguish when plans were put into operation for the Olympic Games.
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I don't think the taxes for Foreign Aid,legal aid for terrorists to appeal against whatever sentence along with the criminal classes and their legal teams has been blamed for taking food out of childrens mouths.
Councils have happily funded such as Gormleys Statues and other monstrosities that investment in a rugby league club would be a welcome improvement on previous folly.

Agree with the council investment aside I wish nothing but a plague on the Garrido woman the most lamentable bint known to man.

This is not a political forum about posh boys or terrorists !!
I desperately hope the council votes in our favour .
If I wasn't a Salford fan,I'd wonder why my council tax was supporting a sporting club.
Forget Garrido,she's rent a gob and has history with Peel.
Take Peel at face value,they're part of a short term fix to,hopefully, sort this out.
Whether this works, or not,is not their fault.
Thank goodness they're there.
They're not part of the problem but they may be part of achieving a solution.
If not,they tried.

A bit of a difference between bailing out the banks than bailing out SRFC, around 99% nationally relay on the bank unfortunately, less than 1% of the Salford public actively support SRFC.
Salford Council have supported Salford probably more than any other rugby City, unfortunately it looks more & more likely the rugby board of Salford reds were not quite up to the task.
I think if I was not a rugby fan I would be questioning throwing more money into the club, the City is cutting back on every service it provides yet the tax payer is being asked to loan more while cutting other services.

I think its wrong for council to keep bailing us out because a club is run poorly I support the club but don't agree with council bailing us out should be put into creating jobs what job prospects will there be bailing a club out that aint going to be able to pay a loan back. Sorry but that will be fact we can't pay what we owe now. So why should council tax payers who might not support the club want to give are club any more money just to be thrown away by are own miss management

Ok I'll admit it's a slight exaggeration. However when the new cuts are announced and the council decide that they need to cut hundreds of jobs ( lets say 500 if Manchesters 900 is anything to go off) everyone of those 500 will look to our club and see that as one of the main factors in depriving them of a wage. Lets face it 750,000 is some 25 jobs based of a 30,000 a year wage. Each one of those will have family and friends who probably aren't supporters of the club. This in turn will breed resentment and negative exposure, which in turn will stop people from coming and supporting us.
There are much worthier causes than Salford City Reds thats for sure.

Lets face it a large number of people already believe that SJW has fleeced the club for years and should be pumping much more than he has done to make the team worth going to watch. This will just fortify their argument.