As I asked last season (and the season we went down) could someone please tell me why the forwards aim at the biggest group of defenders when attacking and not for gaps?

Don't tell me it is to tire the defenders (substitution ruins that plan)
nor
tell me that the "ruck" is so disorganised we can cause a break (I've counted that result on one hand all last season).

Simple question.

So we're back in the same situation as we were before Karl Harrison got sacked?

I really don't get this whole attitude of players not wanting to play for the coach. Surely you play for the love of the game,because it's your job and because it matters to you how you're perceived as a player? It's what they're paid to do after all, for god's sake.

Here we go AGAIN!!!!! Now this really f**ks me off. The little children in the team decide they don't like McRae so decide not to play for him. How f**king dare they! It not only shows a huge disrespect to McRae ( even if he is a crap coach) but also to SJW and to us who pay to watch them. If they don't want to play for him then tell them to f**koff somewhere else.

This mentality is PATHETIC!

I don't suppose you fancy naming them do you LF?

Round and round in ing circles nothing ever changes!!!, 3,400 fans which will be 2,400 home fans next home game, i 100% understand why the people who don't go choose not to, i can quite honestly say that is one of the worst performances Ive ever witnessed, Apart from Holdsworth not one player deserved to be on a winning side. I could go on all day slagging us of but ill save you the bother. I can now see why an outsider looking in at Salford would not want us getting a franchise, team, support who offer nothing but a laugh to the Rugby League.

I don't think that would be advisable. To be honest, I don't see what was to be gained from posting it in the first place. All it will probably really achieve is [ip[/iissing people off even further.

Last night was my first game back after a season away, I brought my 3 yr old daughter and my niece to sample RL for the first time. How bored were they, apart from the obvious lack of passion and entertainment on the pitch, there was no atmosphere, the crowd was poor and just a general souless feeling about the place. Ive been a salford fan all my life and havent gone as much as I shouldve over the past few years but I can see why the crowds are dwindling season upon season.
Dont get me wrong I dont have the answers, maybe the new stadium will help maybe it wont, but for a start youve got to look at your coach from the teams point of view how long do you have to put up with tactless play and poor results before you get sacked?

I don't suppose you had the balls to tell them what a ridiculous comment it was, and how they should be embarrassed about it did you?



Nah, didn't think so ...

Totally agree HR.

Pointless and v boring.

OK we have a small pack so why dont we have a coach who can instil players to run wide into gaps a la Reg Houldsworth last night - line deeper - so they are running on the ball. Our tactic should be to run the opposition forwards breathless rather than constant barging.

Its the Australian way though isnt it? Tedious fayre.

Agreed - this season, amazingly we have some pace in the backs so why oh why were we playing up the middle being outmuscled instead of swinging it wide?

because the SLUG's gameplan was based on how the Welsh team played against Leeds which was up the middle leaving gaps on the outside and the SLUG did not spot this.

As it happens... the conversation stemmed from me asking why we were so poor. Why they seemed so lazy and uninterested. What there excuses were.... that was the excuse they gave me. I didn't tell them it was a ridiculous comment... but I did ask them what they were going to do about it and said how it wasn't really fair on the fans, and why on earth they expected us to turn up week in week out.

I certainly feel that it's worth the fans knowing what was said and what to expect... and perhaps why we look so poor.

And what did these so called players say they was gonna do about it Loyalfan ?

They didn't answer the question.

Thought more would have been said than that, but hey ho..

Did anyone notice the smug grin on the SLUGS face as he joined the que into our flash 2 foot wide players tunnel!!
Lets me honest he couldnt give 2 foooks deep down inside bout the club we live for!!hiself and father ted over the last few years are really laughing all the way to the bank atthe expense of the club we love..END OF..name anything positive they have done to help take the club forward!!????(dont say a clean sweep in national league as my gran could have coached that team to the glory we had that year!)

I put this on the Pie Eaters forum, they were saying the same about Ian Millward when he was there. If a player or group of players do not perform on the field because they have a problem with the current coach then they should be fined and have their pay docked. They do not play for the coach neither do they get paid by them and as "professional rugby league players" their sole intention should be to win every game for the club that employs them. When they pull on the Salford City Reds shirt on they must put any off field problems behind them or face the wrath of the board. We cannot let player power creep into this sport.

We are !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed players should give 100% regardless of the tool in charge, but you can see why they become this way inclned. Was speaking to a supposed relative of a now departed player who ranted at me fr 15 mins about how the slug will sit filling his fat face with food while watching the players swim length after length in the pool etc, and that no-one has any respect for him. Also looks like he's coachign ability out of players, just playing boring rugby.

Who should we get in? Dont think it matters, anyone with a bit of passion whos more interested in the club than they are in fluffing scouse eddie would be an imporoement.

I think widnes will with the great sponsorship from stobarts and ste o connor.We had the biggest average attendances in the championship than salford.We have had longer in the championship than salford so interest is bound to go.In 2005 sl widnes averaged 6700 and that was a poor team.We deserve a chance as much as any other club such as salford,celtic,wakey or castleford.Why should anyone be given the god given right.Think teams are lucky their is no relegation and promotion.

Red, amber and black 'til McRae gets the sack.

Your financial record has earned you a three year stint in the Championship.

If it wasn't for SoC you could be Swinton by now.

Perhaps you should concentrate on trying to do well down there rather than taking cheap shots at SL clubs who are going through tough times?

Ha ha was thinking something similar myself

OK, I've allowed my disappointment to fade a little and here are my thoughts.

Alker should be in 2nd row and absolutely nowhere near the dummy half, I can pick up the ball quicker than him. On friday the defesive line was on the receiver before he got the ball.

Put one of the Smiths at Hooker.

we need some tactics and McRae if you don't know what the issue/problem is do the decent thing and resign.

We need to sort out the centre position, McGillvary was left with no protection on friday which resulted in 3 tries.

Well played to Holdsworth the stand out player and only one who looked lively.