No you need the tin foil helmet, without people can read your minds

And then there's what the freaky aliens can do, those people from Leigh are weird

"Greene King sell good quality beer"

























there has been a suggestion that their IPa be prosecuted under Trade Descriptions as it does not fit any modern or historic definition of IPA.

NO THEY DO NOT : it's distinctly average.

I'm sure it will all come out in the wash!

I detect a theme here...

LIST 1.
When we start winning, the crowds will come.
When the road's finished, the crowds will come.
When the infrastructure around the Stadium is complete, the crowds will come.
When a community pops-up around the Stadium, the crowds will come.
When we get another new stadium, the crowds will come.
When we go on the road, the crowds will come.

Previous to these we had...

LIST 2.
When we get a new stadium, the crowds will come.
When we get a competitive team, the crowds will come.
When we go to Fridays/Sundays, the crowds will come.

The crowds have not come.

Now, who's willing to bet that the excuses/reasons listed in the first list wont turn out like the excuses/reasons in the second list?

Do you think we just have to battle it out where we are and do it right off the pitch combined with consistent improvement on it? I'm beginning to think so. Every quick fix reason we're given turns out to not be true. There's certainly no evidence that any of the reasons we all allude to will actually be right.

Most of these are casinos and that's how they make most of their funds.....sound familier along with the hot tubs

I'm fairly sure his dad made a load of money, after they fled as refugees to kuwait.
That's what he said at "the evening with marwan"

You can add a few more to list 2 Butcher.

When we get rid of Tarry and Simms etc, etc
When we improve our marketing and communication.
When we stop giving away complimentary tickets.
When we start working closer with local amateur clubs.
When we stop signing old players.
When we speculate and spend more money on better players.

Whether we like it or not, Salford Red Devils is an extremely hard sell to the vast majority of the Salford public but we should never stop trying or believing. You could say the club has tried almost everything now apart from abducting people off the streets, but the one missing thing has been a successful team. For instance, every other club in superleague has been to Wembley at least 10 years after we last played there. Plus 6 other clubs not even in SL now.

Yes we have tried all but one of those listed.The one we haven't done is win matches on a consistent basis.When Salford was a top club the crowds were pretty consistently good.

Yep, it's now time for more foreigners like me to join the fight, not English, let alone Salfordian.. but really passionate about "are" club!!

Just a pity that most of the newbies I bring are from that principality north of Carlisle, however, a few do keep coming back, so we must be offering something right if folks make the pilgrimage from God's Country occasionally.... The issues I have are with NW newbies.. they come, enjoy, but hardly ever want to come back as they don't understand RL - don't make no sense...

Jocks (in general) are alien to RL but once they watch it, fully understand

Are Kids are from the RL heartlands, but many after watching it are still baffled as to what they've just witnessed and don't come back..





Northerners (English ones) are not very bright

Did anyone see the League Express letters section this week? 3 letters written in all about our attendances. Some interesting claims and points as well.

What were your three pseudonyms?

Tit,
Tossa,
Tw@,

Or Barker possibly.

Sorry.

Or

Barker

Possibly

I can't wait for the moment it does.

Is this another one for my list?

All the answers will arrive...eventually. Like our hordes of stay away support?

To be fair, putting a winning team out on the pitch isn't a quick fix, which is one of the reasons many of us call for patience whenever this argument crops up. It's not that long ago we were getting 4, 5, 6 thousand crowds fairly regularly - there was a downturn towards the end of life at the Willows (I'm going off memory there, rather than hard fact...) so it's not beyond the realms of fantasy that a successful side and fulfilled promises would bring at least some of those people back.

PS - just seen the reply above as well, very good.

Think of our position as supporters from a different perspective. It's more exclusive following Salford Red Devils than owning a luxury yacht. Perhaps we should have a totally new and unique approach to our marketing? By special invitation only. People always want what they can't have and it would appeal to those types who think they are a cut above the rest? They would be cuing from Worsley roundabout.

I think Leigh have beaten you to this...

Reading Leigh fans comments about their inevitable victory against us on the Leythers forum, the thought big bubble came to mind.

I'm actually with you on this one. I think our support will rise over time, but I don't think it'll reach the highs that some seem to suggest. A return to an average of six, six and a half thousand would be what we should expect IF everything is done right. Our problem seems to be holding onto fans that do decide to return. One poor performance and that's them for another year. Home wins need to be our priority to keep those fickle types of fans coming through the turnstiles. We seem to be slowly doing this with our current home record, but we really need to be sticking some points on a few teams to make them sit-up and take notice.

i honestly believe that if the AJ Bell was built in the same location as the willows we would be hitting much higher crowds. For me we have moved a business away from its core customers and with that people have/will drop off. Want evidence? Look at Swinton when they moved to gig lane, look at sale when they moved, Coventry City dropped massively when they moved. History seems to be littered with clubs where this has happened, partly because people feel the their "local" club has gone and partly because you lose so much passing and local trade. Lets face it people cant be ar$ed commuting ten miles to a club that used to be on their doorstep.

I’m not convinced, and I’m from Weaste. I just think for some it’s too far out of ‘proper’ Salford. Sounds daft but that sentiment does exist east of Eccles.

I am probably speaking out of turn but that sort off comments puts me right off!

I was never at the Willows but from reading here for a few years, people seem to have a tinted memory of what appeared to be a ramshackle, with roofs caving in and toilets that where a wall to pee against. Going by what I read, similiar to the make a mend jungle ( where by their own admission, visiting teams refuse to use the away changing rooms).

There appears to be a group memory of workers clocking off at 5, walking to the pub, having a few, walking to the stadium watching some rugby, back to the pub for a few more and home. I am in my 40's but I can never rememember that working utopia ( but nor can I remember 13 year olds down the pits). Similar to comments about building a new stadium, seemingly ignoring the fact that the land in a central location would cost £20m with a similar amount to build a stadium.

My point being, the old idea of following a club rooted in the community no longer exists. A SL club is a business, it relies on coporate, it relies on those shelling out for the padded seats, it relies on people buying merchsndise; it no longer relies on those living next door. While it may wants numbers, the ones who think £18 is expensive and refuse to buy a pint are not what make a club money. Like it or not , those who shell out £40 a ticket and are happy to pay over the odds for a beer or 3 are the people who make a club viable.

All of which leads me back to original post. I am a season ticket holder with Sale, being from NI I only knew RU until recently, I have went to a few Salford games ( and been able\lucky to afford for the posh seats) and enjoyed RL more than most RU games, while people like the poster above or Martin Vickers decide to label this Irish Council House boy as posh, I'll spend my money somewhere I feel welcome.

I am quite new to this forum, but have read it for years and my honest thoughts are fans of RL often do more harm to a great sport than they know. I am prob the type of person RL needs to attract, am certainly in the ABC1 advertising category, think RL is a better spectacle but for a more enjoyable match experience I renewed my more expensive Sale Season ticket. I will buy a few Salford tickets when am free, will follow them and hope they go well, but the match day experience is more down to the fans than the club. When the 2000 core fans get that right, then people like me will attend more.
Sorry , bit of a rant, but been thinking about it a lot deciding what ticket to buy.