If you accept that the players read the Turkey,then they read all the crap about being unfit and not trying.
They are bound to react to idiots in the crowd.
When the first try went in just before half time we had been playing ok and holding our own in an arm wrestle.
Fans can shout what they like and the players shouldn't really answer back but,as I say, with some of the stuff being written , human nature takes over.

Indisciplined unorganised rabble.
We have good players who are being coached in the art of RL from 20 years ago.
First SM and now PV, both with the same coaching style snuffing out what what skill there is in the team.
I would get frustrated if I had to play to that game plan every week.
Not once last night did they break the line and attacks petered out due to lack of ideas.
Simple things such as defensive lines, passes to hands, tackling ,appear to have gone out of the window.
This is now 4 years of utter $hite and even with new players it is the same old Dross, one common denominator coaching.

On the note of new owners, heard a rumour from a fairly reliable source that millward had accepted the salford job last year, but SM refused to leave and we couldnt afford to pay him off so Millward stayed at Leigh. The second part of the rumour was that the Leigh chairman would follow Millard over to Salford. I dont know much about the guy, even if he has any more money than JW, but he has just recently left Leigh...

Balanced, concise and considered opinion. You simply don't belong on the 'Turkey.
The utter rubbish that comes out of some on here and at the game itself is greatly contributing to me spending a month backpacking around Europe and perhaps calling it a day for a fair while longer than that.

One particular example of the drivel a large section of the shed had to listen to last night was a young fella who I would describe as a 'commentator.' He just could not shut up... On and on, criticism after criticism. Dan Holdsworth this, the Aussies that, not trying, don't care, blah blah blah blah blah blaaaaaaah... If you you post on here, you're the dark haired lad that uttered "I concur" about half way through the 2nd half following a tirade of Anti-Aussie abuse from another fan. Dude, you're becoming a nightmare. Cut the racism, ridiculous OTT criticism and chill the hell out!

As for the Salford's performance. Plenty of effort, unable to capitalise.

Same old Salford let a try in just before and then just after half time. Not faulting the lack of effort far from it, but its a sad state of affairs when you can actually predict whats going to happen. I've given up now and will probably be missing my first game of the season next week against Bradford think I'll go and watch Folly u18's in the national cup final instead!

Yes, I thought about commenting on this too. Would rather save the rest of my views for a different audience.

I personally didn't think the performance was as bad some people are making out that's not to say i was impressed by it but I've seen worse.It could of been a different ball game had we took out chances in that first half, how we didn't score ill never know the holdsworth/patten combo is becoming boring and we need to try something different, to get 0 at home & not for the first time this season is poor. As already pointed out why do we always concede just before and just after half time, people in the Shed could predict what was going to happen in that we will have all the pressure and right before half time they will score nothing EVER changes. We need a win next week at Bradford to get some confidence back in the players and to open that gap up between us in the table.

With regard to the Holdsworth/Cashmere situation it again is just a thing that could occur at Salford, i don't know what went on and know sometimes we have a fair share of idiots but Holdsworth & Ray shouldn't be telling the fans to "fu*ck of" wining challenge cup is something us fans have dreamed about for many years, before they had probably even heard of Salford and is something we will dream about long after they have left us. These are two of our best players we need them on our side not to be arguing with each other.

Would like to praise Fekka as well last night, ran it hard and made yards that is all we ask.

Who does?!

I stand by what I said originally, if you don't want someone to shout back at you, don't shout at them in the first place.

I shouted at some bloke the other week about how bad his parking was; he told me to "f*** off" even though he had parked illegally and I'd done nowt wrong.

Didn't make me go on an internet forum to cry about it though ...

I wasn't at the game and got to listen to the last 15 mins of the first half as I drove home from work. The GMR team were saying it was one of the best games they have seen all season with great defensive displays by both teams and some scintillating attacking play from Salford.
However even I knew from the radio that we were giving the ball away carelessly and as KR applied the pressure I even said out loud in the car that being salford we'll give away a try right before half time. And low and behold we did!
The alteration between the crowd and players however is quite disturbing. Professional sportsmen get abuse, it's nothing new they should be used to it by now. I'm not saying it's right that they should get it, but sadly it's part and parcel of the job.

The club are not just playing for a new coach we are playing for a franchise and with performances over last three years we have to be among the ones close to looseing ares new stadium or not. So fan expect the players to at least put a shift in as there playing for the franchise lives if we don't get it we loose everything club as done over years so its about time the players got there mind on the job or we will be back in national league which would be end of are club I feel its jw I feel sorry for in all this

Agreed but if the club didn't already know that they had the franchise do you think JW would be making the trip to OZ?

Sad as it is to say but after last night this season is already over, we have no chance of making the top 8, no cup run so all I can see is that the last home game will be a teary farewell from the die hards and hopefully a chance for the club to start a fresh with new ideas, better backroom staff and hopefully new fans on board.

Why is it that whoever we have as a coach we always only have one set attacking move? Used to be the inside ball to Finnigan when Harrison was in charge, now it's the Patten/Holdsworth link. To say we are lacking direction is an understatement. On the other hand if we hand scored first I reckon we would've won. Gonna be too late for the prospective new coach to rescue this season now though.

I feel we moved backwards when we got rid of Karl Harrison and a Steve simms appointment of mcrae at least when Karl Harrison was here the team was committed and we did not get battered every week then we got mcrae that's where it went wrong I just hope Wilkinson takes control and not let simms employ the new coach. For me he is the main problem for a while and if any one should leave it is him

You didn't and it wasn't. 5 or 6 hundred, which for travelling down on a Friday night is a bloody brilliant effort.

As for our performance... Dour. Uninspiring. A weak way to go out of the Cup. It was just a deflating night all round.

Thats your opinion,my opinion is that we took around 1000.

No, no you didn't.

But then it was Simms who appointed Harrison and you liked him!

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To say I was shocked at the turnout last night would have been an understatement! we could have no excuses, second round of the cup, at home no football being played so no excuse.
If there was 1200 Salford fans there last night that would have been tops,


So 2087
-1200 Salford fans max
= 887 Rovers fans at minimum
Shall we settle on at least 887 Rovers fans then?

I doubt RG actually counted everyone (although he / she probably could

) I would say there were around 650/750 Rovers fans there, which as has already been said is a great following for a cup game, but never a grand of you, FC brought more last week and they didn't bring a thousand, in fact not many do.

If it pleases you

is that including the Rovers fan who jibbed in and got chased down by andy slack and his steward boys and thrown out this 800 Hull KR fans

attendances have been dreadful at all the cup ties, only 5000 at Bradford and St helens and warrington. Can someone get Sheik Mansour interested in RL!!!! I have watched Salford for over 40 years , and i can take losing as long as we play with passion and play expansive football that everyone wants to watch. This i am afraid has been lacking for sometime, and is down to poor coaching, poor fitness levels, and a squad with not enough depth. At the moment we lack passion for the shirt, lack of leadership on the field , and the senior players know if they havea bad game they wont bev dropped as we have no one to come in. I would rather see 17 players on the pitch who would give there all, and play with freedom and imagination than watch the current dross.

Holdsworth should not be the captain,and definitely not stand off,another one we went overboard about,
but still only an Australian reserve.another bad decision.

Any other nuggets of Rugby League knowledge, Lancetodd?

Maybe, Grandmother shows Patten how to be a real fullback?

Or, Ratchford waste of space because he's got a bendy face?

I love the fact that we have fans vomiting this kind negative tripe. That for some incredible reason, they are in a better position to judge who should and shouldn't be a Captain.

S.A.D.