The Irony is strong with this one.

Ex-salfordian you'll realise that there's a definate clique on this forum they normally all stand together or know each other in some way shape or form, your opinion on here if not agreed by the CLIQUE will get you the abuse you are receiving now, don't bother with them, I don't.

I will not join any clique that will accept me as a member.

I've seen this mentioned before, usually by someone who has made a proper idiot of themselves and got a lot of reality check replies. It's also simply not true.

The reason it's not true is this...

If I was to make an unwarranted abusive or negative post. Or simply post something that I should not divulge. Or post something that is plainly wrong in a factual sense, you will get a lot of random people who will tell you that you're wrong, stupid for posting what you have done, and put you right on facts.

That's not a clique.

If you think it is, maybe you should review what you posts and ask yourself a question.

Is everyone ganging-up on me in an organised and deliberate manner, or is it me?

Believe me, I don't get lots of PM's from the leader of the ST Clique issuing orders on who to target and who's in or out. That's because it's a fantasy dreamed-up by someone who gets told too often to stop being a bell-end.

Butcher read the latest communique as we were all instructed to call him a tool not a bell end

Do you want any vinegar to go with that chip? I'm more of a lurker than poster and what I see is simply a fairly wide cynicism amongst the regular contributors to posters who seem to drop in every now and then and make a lot of noise. I've never felt shouted down by a mass of people I don't know, but then I pick and chose what to post and don't tend to do attention seeking psosts.

Isn't this a rugby league forum? I browse on this site every now and again to check up on all things Salford and have been doing for many years and recently it just seems as though its one set of fans against another. Its becoming tedious from all involved.

Moderators, perhaps we could create a sticky / thread where this sort of behaviour can occur so people like me who follow our club through thick and thin, from bad times to good times don't have to read such drivel.

Exciting times lie ahead for our club and I just wish that we could all unite together for a change. At the end of the day whether people are right or wrong, its a public forum and everybody is entitled to their opinion.

I'm just saying perhaps what many people are thinking. Please don't

me for it.

I think I shall take this opportunity to consider your post as an infelicitous remark - not because it is,but because I have just learned the expression.
Thick git ? Well,I blame the teachers - What the learner hasn't learned the teacher hasn't taught.
Quite impressed with your disparaging remarks about Sean Edwards,Lee Crooks et al.Not to mention your love of Scousers.
Do I detect a confrontational edge ?
Anyway - what you posted was -
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I shall await your apology in the post.

Anyway Garry Schofield, tw@ or not

Thought I'd be revolutionary and try to get back on topic.

Agree with above, The posts always seem to toddle off into a slanging match on peoples intelligence or lack of it
Keep to the topic, PLEASE

And yet your post adds nothing to the topic.



Schofield was a great player. Not just a try poacher (which some people seem to think is all he was) but probably the best British stand-off of his era. He also did a nice line in stealing possession at the play the ball, back in the days when the play the ball was contested.

As a pundit, though, he seems to be turning himself into Alex Murphy 2.0 with his negativity. That said, he might have a point about the team gelling. There are thirteen new signings and possibly more to come. Assuming that only two of Johnson, Walton, Meli and Sa'u will feature and that Mozzer will obviously be injured, there could be as many as ten new faces in the seventeen for the first game of 2014. As we've seen with Bury, it doesn't always go the way you'd like it to.

Still, if there's a coach that's going to get so many new faces to gel, then it's Brian Noble. And they're back in training already, according to The Advertiser.

#RedLeagueMeltdown.

The pattern that was emerging is now a habit formed.With the regularity of Schofield dissing Salford,you have a pop at Adrian Morley.


That aside,reading the book about the late John Holmes,it was stated that there was a real friendhip between Leeds and Salford players which was presumed to have come about following the tragedy of the death during a game between the 2 sides.
It was at Leeds where Schofield turned from centre to stand-off.
If his conduct in the dressing rooms and on the pitch was anything like his comments in the press and elsewhere I am surprised there was any team spirit wherever he went.
He has had a bit of tragedy in his private life,and this years criticism of Hull FC will prevent me from pointing out his foolishness......until we reach a higher position in the Super League table than those clubs he tips for the top.

red devils paw.... learn to read u thicko... i never mentioned saen edwards or lee crooks.....

I don't really need to write anything else do I?

I shall try and keep on topic.So,apart from Schofield,you don't seem to rate and [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=20&t=555886&p=17505384&tsmp=1382174135#p175053849th August 1.15 am[/url

I'm surprised you can a get internet connection underneath a bridge where the Trolls all live.

michigan.... i dont need internet... i use your mums computer as we cuddle up in bed together

If you knew my Mum that would just so comical it really would.

I really can't see what relevance Adrian Morley has here. Look, I appreciate you're excited about the prospect of finally seeing him receiving treatment in a Salford training top - we [iall[/i are - but this obsession of yours is in danger of diverting threads away from their original topic - Garry Schofield, in this case.

So, to get it back on line, it's also worth remembering that a couple of years ago, Schofield was retrospectively awarded the Golden Boot award for some year or other, so he was up with the best as a player. As a pundit though, it's as if he feels the need to be unnecessarily controversial.

I started the thread.
But to add to it,is he doing a Stevo or is it a Yorkshire thing ?

scoot,
It's his own thing.
He flip-flops more than any politician.All he wrote in the RLE was already done in his national press column
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He has upset Andy Farrell,Jamie Peacock,Adrian Morley and a number of coaches [url=http://richarddelariviere.co.uk/?p=246Here[/url
It would seem he is a complete contradiction.

It seems the perception of RL in the national media is of a sport always beset by some form of controversy or other. The commentaries on Sky (from the little I've seen of them) tend to focus on refereeing decisions, injustices, things going wrong, etc. There seems to be little about the skills on display. Schofield's yearly column is another symptom of it. If he gave an in depth analysis of each club - strengths, weaknesses, likely tactics, etc. (the kind of thing you see at the start of the RU season in the 'quality' papers) - he wouldn't get invited back. It's controversy we need (apparently).

I think it's why Ashcroft and Murphy get trundled out every few months in the Evening Speculator.

That is one thing that really annoys me about the way Sky cover games: a try will be scored, and the first thing that is replayed is the knock on by the opponent 50 yards back up the field 4 tackles earlier. They dwell on negatives.

As for Schofield as a pundit, he seems to be just one of a number of ex-players who seem to do nothing but moan about modern RL. Did anyone hear Henderson Gill on Radio Manc prior to the cup final? Everything was better in his day; it was better when players didn't have to train hard; it was better when Wembley had two towers (and p*ss poor spectator facilities and views) etc. Now, these guys do have some valid points at times (semi-meaningful scrums, striking at the play the ball, ref actually making decisions) but the barrage of negativity just gets tedious.

Then contrast it with Aussie TV equivalents - Johns, Lewis, Stirling, Vautin, Fittler, Geyer, Hindmarsh, Ikin, Alexander etc. All from the last 30 years, all eloquent, and seemingly not embittered. Of the same period of GB players we only have Clarke as any kind of serious pundit, and "Baz n Tez" put forward as the jokey boys (when I bet both could probably do a decent serious job).

I wonder if this is because the people in the UK media - both commentators and pundits - are too far removed from the modern game to understand it. The impression we get from them is that the game is no more complicated than hopscotch, so the only thing worth talking about is the controversy surrounding it. And yet, as we saw from Aussieland's postings a few years ago, there's far more to it than there appears on the surface.

I sometimes get to hear bits of what passes for commentary on Radio Manchester (usually a quick, broad description of what's happening on the field followed by a lengthy trawl around scores elsewhere and what's coming up over the weekend, plus Jacko's analysis of traffic on Barton Bridge - "Flowing, for the first time ever", as it is every week) and Paul Rowley comes across really well. He seems to be able to add a bit of the tactical analysis that commentaries and punditry elsewhere lacks. We need more of him and less of the knockabout 'nuthen' stereotypes.