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| There were no issues with the clock at the game. I don't know what the fuss is about. The clock was clearly visible and was stopped by the referee whenever it needed to be. Castleford scored their final try with thirty odd seconds left on the clock. We were gutted.
We should have won the game when Meli was put through with two men inside him but he failed to pass to either of them. I also felt that he should have got back into a marker position before Cas scored their final try, but that may be a bit harsh.
I don't think we deserved to lose though.
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| I sit behind the "time keeping booth" in the main stand. It's a large digital clock with a button that the timekeeper presses when the referee stops the clock, and one they push when play restarts. A Castleford and Salford director (usually) sits either side of the timekeeper and (I believe) sign at the end to say that everything has been done properly.
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| The game clock is there for all to see.
It ticks down unless the ref stops it. How time can be extended god only knows.
F'kin idiots all!
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| The clock only got mentioned inside the ground as, where we were stood, no one could see it and there were confusing reports as to how long was left.
Perhaps we should concentrate more on the fact that we had plenty of first half possession but never looked like scoring. Or the three chances bombed in the second half. Or the silly errors. Or the lapse defending we keep being plagued with, particularly at the end on this occassion.
I'm sure a certain poster on here will be pleased to know I found certain aspects of our performance encouraging. However we're still getting it wrong at key moments.
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| I thought your forwards really showed up today, particularly in defence. Your line speed, for most of the game, was very good and we struggled to make an impact in the forwards because of it, and the likes of Huby and Lynch struggled to get going.
I'm glad Hock only played a bit of the game, I think you would have won if he had played more minutes. He really takes some controlling with the ball, and is always looking to bash someone in defence! However, 'hit of the day' has to be Carney's belter on Junior Sa'u.
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| Listening to it on GMR and i cant believe it, gutted. I dont know the situation with the clock so i cant really say anything. Meli sounded like he had a stinker and Morley was forever knocking on. We are our own worse enermy though and thats the annoying thing. We need to take our chances. Lets just hope we do the same again next week with Locke and Brown in the team
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| Nothing to do with todays game but i just wonder how many other games go way over in injury time but because the game isn't closely contested in the final minutes nobody notices especially as some teams away fans are already on their way out of the ground. It didn't look as if you travelled in great numbers today but credit to the ones who did as you made yourselves heard.
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| i know we get called for our away travels but when the team does well then i know for a fact we will take loads. We proven it in the past. im not having a go at castleford but remember when you played us last season you only bought a a few hundred but when you came to our place (cos the team being doing well) this season you must of brought 3 coachs which is fair play to your lot.I hope there wasnt any trouble though as i thought this game being built up with the chase and syned thing
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| at the 'end of the day' Moneybags Salford lost again...despite the faulty clock.
With all this spending, you need to get a decent coach.
It's like having Peter Schmeichel managing Oilchester City....Doomed to failure/expectations.
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| 80 mins. 15-3 penalty count in Salford's favour, surely enough!?
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| Quote ="RedDave"There were no issues with the clock at the game. I don't know what the fuss is about. The clock was clearly visible and was stopped by the referee whenever it needed to be. Castleford scored their final try with thirty odd seconds left on the clock. We were gutted.
We should have won the game when Meli was put through with two men inside him but he failed to pass to either of them. I also felt that he should have got back into a marker position before Cas scored their final try, but that may be a bit harsh.
I don't think we deserved to lose though.'"
Absolutely correct in everything.
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| Quote ="Shooze"The game clock is there for all to see.
It ticks down unless the ref stops it. How time can be extended god only knows.
F'kin idiots all!'"
The clock is only as accurate as the person pressing the stop/start button. It is open to human error if the timekeeper stops it and forgets to start it again immediately when the game resumes. Or the same could happen if the timekeeper pressed the button twice by accident.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying this definitely happened but there did seem a lot of added time and it is plausible.
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| I'm no Kershaw fan as a ref but blaming him for your loss is a bit of a stretch.
When you review the video for the time controversy I wonder if it's worth checking who missed tackles and made errors wearing Salford shirt. It will be more valuable imho.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm no Kershaw fan as a ref but blaming him for your loss is a bit of a stretch.
When you review the video for the time controversy I wonder if it's worth checking who missed tackles and made errors wearing Salford shirt. It will be more valuable imho.'"
I agree. I was simply answering Shooze question of how is it possible to add extended time on the clock.
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| Quote ="theredshed"The clock is only as accurate as the person pressing the stop/start button. It is open to human error if the timekeeper stops it and forgets to start it again immediately when the game resumes. Or the same could happen if the timekeeper pressed the button twice by accident.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying this definitely happened but there did seem a lot of added time and it is plausible.'"
As said before, the official timekeeper is flanked by a representative from each club who supervise when the clock is stopped and re-started. If there are any issues they raise these with the match commissioner and I believe they both sign at the end to say everything was done properly.
I think the length of the game was mainly due to Cas packing every scrum quickly from when we went behind with about 15mins left.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"As said before, the official timekeeper is flanked '" So are airline pilots but they still crash due to human error. No seriously if it's right and our club are happy with it, then let's move on and take the positives out of the game.
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| Quote ="theredshed"So are airline pilots but they still crash due to human error.
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Bit more complicated than a machine with one button for start and stop though!
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| The timekeeping isnt an issue. Was only one team allowed to score in 'added time'?
We played very well in the conditions, and in my opinion, it was meli who let us down, twice.
A special mention to evalds who was outstanding in the conditions.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Bit more complicated than a machine with one button for start and stop though!'"
Yes but they don't have cruise control, 500 warning systems and the distraction of a nail biting game
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| Quote ="terrykelly"at the 'end of the day' Moneybags Salford lost again...despite the faulty clock.
With all this spending, you need to get a decent coach.
It's like having Peter Schmeichel managing Oilchester City....Doomed to failure/expectations.'"
More advice from a Leyther who never watches Salford. Why do they bother? Iestyn continuing to prove all the doubters wrong. After the gossip from Fev I am just glad that we have a Chairman who has invested fully.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Iestyn continuing to prove all the doubters wrong.'"
What's his record this year?
If the Salford forwards play like they did yesterday every game they should go okay.
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| Blaming the timekeepers is just daft. If this has come from Jacko, then you can be sure the timekeepers had it spot on. I'll reiterate the rule of thumb: if Jacko says something is true, it isn't.
As for the game itself, I think the best team lost. We looked better with the ball than Cas, and regularly made more ground in our sets than they did. We also kept possession better, which explains the penalty count (you give more penalties away when you're defending, which, in turn means you spend more time defending, which means you give more penalties away...it's how teams get a roll on). We had plenty of possession in the first half but couldn't break the Cas line. Rangi was fairly anonymous (but so was Marc Sneyd).
We improved second half, and Rangi came into it more. We bombed a couple of clear chances, and should have been far enough ahead for the last minute try to have been irrelevant. Our inability to finish let us down again.
I think losing Gareth Hock was a big blow, possibly the turning point. He showed when he came back on that he's head and shoulders above any other forward on the field last night. As one Cas fan said, had he been able to play the full game, the result would have been different.
MoM (for both sides) was Niall Evalds. Again. A bomb is as good as a pass, the cas kickers found him with clockwork regularity, and he looked threatening every time he had the ball. Nobby's decision to not play him gets more and more inexplicable. The question needs to be asked: do we really need Kevin Locke?
Overall, an enjoyable game. The weather inevitably made handling difficult, but that seemed to affect Cas more than us. Our defence was good, and our attack - second half - looked decent. We just can't finish moves off, but I do think we're improving.
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| think these complaints are from Salford fans not actually at the game.
The clock isn't visible from the gantry where the radio commentators are and were clearly timing the game on their watch.
The match clock stops and starts as the referee dictates and there were 30 seconds left when we scored - we counted down the clock at the end.
There was no "time added on" whatsoever, but it'd be a good laugh to see Saflord frantically complaining to the RFL
as for the game, we were absolutely terrible. Like watching the Cas of last year.
Somehow Salford contrived to lose even with a massively favourable penalty count. All that flair on the field and scored 10 points camped on our line for what seemed like the entire match. Something's just not clicking, but they'll find the groove eventually
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"What's his record this year?
If the Salford forwards play like they did yesterday every game they should go okay.'"
He inhertited a Nobby squad: big, bustling (but slow) backs, 'experienced' forwards, no specialist dummy half, no goal kicker. He's shown with his signings that he's fully aware of the problems he was left with, and, I think, has done an extremely good job given what he had to work with. We're playing better now than we did at any time under Nobby. The time to judge him is next season, but I'm happy with what I've seen so far.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"think these complaints are from Salford fans not actually at the game.
The clock isn't visible from the gantry where the radio commentators are and were clearly timing the game on their watch.
The match clock stops and starts as the referee dictates and there were 30 seconds left when we scored - we counted down the clock at the end.
There was no "time added on" whatsoever, but it'd be a good laugh to see Saflord frantically complaining to the RFL
as for the game, we were absolutely terrible. Like watching the Cas of last year.
Somehow Salford contrived to lose even with a massively favourable penalty count. All that flair on the field and scored 10 points camped on our line for what seemed like the entire match. Something's just not clicking, but they'll find the groove eventually'"
From what I've read, the complaint was from the commentator on GMR, and people who weren't there are just picking up on it. Jacko's commentaries are, by and large, dreadful. He's either telling you what's coming up tomorrow or what's happening elsewhere, or he's trying to find controversy where there is none. I just can't listen to him.
I agree, Cas were poor, but I'd like to think that's because we made you look poor. Our defence was right up in your face, and Marc Sneyd weas given little time on the ball. I hope last night didn't reduce his selling price.
And I also think we'll click, eventually. Hopefully.
I'm starting to look forward to matches again, after a few months of just going out of duty.
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