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| Quote ="Ceebeejames"If you criticise simms it is a vendetta?
Do try and grow up.'"
I just can't understand why you as a supposed Huddersfield supporter are so obsessed with coming on this forum and making post after post about Father Ted.
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| Quote ="king of the shed"I'm sorry have I missed something here, did Simms actually tell the press anything regarding Wrigley or did he answer the questions that were asked by a journalist? Could the said journo not have got his information from another source, maybe one down under, an agent shall we say?
Journo: "There's a rumour that your client Kurt Wrigley is on Salford's wish, list is this true?"
Agent: "Yeah we've been in contact with them and they will be coming over next week to speak to him and I've told him to have a chat with them"
A week later;
Journo: "Hi is there and updates regarding Kurt and the Salford job as I believe the club officials are on their way over to Oz as we speak"
Agent: "Yeah mate, Kurt doesn't want the job; we've spoken about certain other opportunities for him but he'll speak with them anyway"
Journo: "Steve I believe Wrigley has turned the Salford job down"
Simms: "Wrigley is now no longer a contender for the position we have."
"I've spoken with him, I've also had talks with his agent and it's clear he does not want to be considered for a job with us."
"Souths were happy for him to speak with us - they would not have stood in his way had an opportunity to become a head coach in Super League with Salford been offered to him but he will stay where he is."
"That's fine by us, we know where we stand and we've said all along we want someone who is fully prepared and totally committed to fulfilling the role of a head coach."
I read over and over what was printed in the press and I can honestly say I don't see what your issue is (bearing in mind the fact you don’t support Salford as well!). As a very passionate Salford fan I find nothing wrong with what’s been said, I know of many players reported in the press being linked with another club only for them to turn the contract down, why is this any different? We'll just move on a hopefully get a coach that wants to be at the club and wants to be successful with us.
In fact does anyone else have an issue with it?'"
You are ahead. previously we have had imagined conversations between wrigley and maguire. Now you have three imaginary participants. Well done. Perhaps someone can go for 4 or 5 pretend conversations?
I am sure Simms would be delighted that some salford supporters are okay with his bumbling ineptitude.
If the rumours about gentle being the new head coach are true then things should certainly improve at salford, as long as he has the freedom to make decisions.
Gentle has been a very capable 3rd string coach at West. He has had the opportunity to work with a master in Sheens.
Would expect a prompt overhaul of your conditioning and a much tougher regime for players. Wests have had Foulkes in charge of conditioning and he is very capable.
Would also expect your assistants to be moved on unless they have longish contracts.
I hope they give the guy at least 4 years to get things on a solid footing.
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| Thank god someone talking about our new coach to be. I'm sick of coming on here and hoping someone has some news about who our next coach is. Instead some nobbers decide to post the same old sheet about simms. Just start a new thread and talk amongst yourselves. The rest of us wanna feel a bit giddy and excited! Not often we get a new coach and it let's us dream!
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| Quote ="Ceebeejames"I hope they give the guy at least 4 years to get things on a solid footing.'"
That wouldn't be popular with the fans. McRae's 4 year tenure has drained everyone. You can argue the merits of giving McRae or anyone else that long a deal but regardless - even if it was Wayne Bennett, for example - fingers have been stung.
Unless of course it was two years initially with the possibility of a two year extension.
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| KMT - my thoughts exactly!!
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| Quote ="Ceebeejames"
Gentle has been a very capable 3rd string coach at West. He has had the opportunity to work with a master in Sheens.
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Back on topic.
I'd be more than happy if Gentle was given the job. I'm sure he's been waiting for this kind of opportunity for some time. Salford need a coach that has a real purpose when he wakes up in the morning rather than someone who's had a big coaching job before with the only motivation being the contract. I hope if it is Gentle that he views this as a once in a lifetime chance to make a good reputation as a head coach with (no disrespect to Salford at the present time) a view to landing an even bigger job in the NRL in the future.
I knew nothing about Gentle so I've been doing a little digging on the internet and this is what I found. He's got plenty of experience working previously as assistant at Cronulla under Stuart Raper (He was there the last time the Sharks made the play-offs in 2005). He's also been at the Tigers for some time under Sheens and Wests must rate him if he's been offered a new 3 year contract. He coached one of the junior teams to a semi final a couple of years back. Further to this he coached NSW under 18's to victory against Queensland in Brisbane last year and was assistant coach for the Australian national team against New Zealand recently. He also seems very comfortable dealing with the media and comes across very well on some NRL video's that I viewed. He often deputises for Tim Sheens. I also noted his agent is David Howes (British) and his nickname is 'Gents'. Gentle has also worked with Royce Simmons at Wests.
What Salford need is a working coach who will role his sleeves up and take to the training field, it appears from what I've read he will do this.
As for him being third string I don't know because it appears most NRL clubs have two assistant coaches? One will work on say defence and video analysis and the other on attack and other areas. I did read that Steve Folkes was very complimentary about Peter Gentle when he was given the St George assistant's job saying Gentle was a great coach.
Typically after doing this research on Gentle it's bound to be someone else that gets the job now. (With the evening news getting it all wrong) Neil if it is Gentle I'll be expecting a cheque in the post!
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| Quote ="theredshed"I also noted his agent is David Howes (British)'"
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It says on The Sun's website that it's Gentle too. Must be nailed on if it's in The Sun!
bit.ly/j0qHvz
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It says on The Sun's website that it's Gentle too. Must be nailed on if it's in The Sun!
bit.ly/j0qHvz
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Quote ="Salfords Finest"It says on The Sun's website that it's Gentle too. Must be nailed on if it's in The Sun!
bit.ly/j0qHvz'"
Cue a super injunction.
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Quote ="Salfords Finest"It says on The Sun's website that it's Gentle too. Must be nailed on if it's in The Sun!
bit.ly/j0qHvz'"
Cue a super injunction.
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| [uIf[/u he can't come over 'til after this season, what do we do about the rest of this season?
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| Quote ="Iain"[uIf[/u he can't come over 'til after this season, what do we do about the rest of this season?'"
Carry on as we have been?
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Quote Howes etc:- [iRepresentation for coaches include Stanley Gene, Peter Gentle, John Kear, Shaun McRae and Matt Parish, plus conditioners Paul Devlin and Andy Haigh.[/i'"
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Quote Howes etc:- [iRepresentation for coaches include Stanley Gene, Peter Gentle, John Kear, Shaun McRae and Matt Parish, plus conditioners Paul Devlin and Andy Haigh.[/i'"
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| This season is already a failure, I think that's pretty obvious.
If Gentle is the right man then I'm happy for us to wait until the end of the season. Talk on Twitter this morning of a 3y deal. Would have preferred 2y with a 1y option but we don't know how that conversation might have gone.
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| This season is already a failure, I think that's pretty obvious.
[iI fully agree with you 'Diavolo Rosso' ROLL ON 2O12 at BARTON.[/i
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| I think the fact that the new coach is unlikely to arrive until next season is a disaster and typical Salford.We need this guy here now-why?Well he needs some experience of the League to make the best of next season-he's going to have lost some of his best players eg.Ratchford because he will see no reason/proof for him to be optimistic and frankly we need to start sorting out this shambles.You can't expect next season to go well when if we pursue the current theory you will have a lot of beaten demoralised players.Plus he needs to weigh up what new players we eed.Can't imagine any top team accepting the status quo.
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| So the big question is write off this season get gentle next season or millward this season and go for it short term or long game hmm interesting...
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| I would put 'John from Salford' in charge for the remainder of the season, with him being Gentle's no 2 next season.
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| Quote ="right said father ted"I would put 'John from Salford' in charge for the remainder of the season, with him being Gentle's no 2 next season.'"
We'd have to find another coach for the away games. And for the home ones he 'can't get to'.
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| Quote ="shandybass"I think the fact that the new coach is unlikely to arrive until next season is a disaster and typical Salford.We need this guy here now-why?Well he needs some experience of the League to make the best of next season-he's going to have lost some of his best players eg.Ratchford because he will see no reason/proof for him to be optimistic and frankly we need to start sorting out this shambles.You can't expect next season to go well when if we pursue the current theory you will have a lot of beaten demoralised players.Plus he needs to weigh up what new players we eed.Can't imagine any top team accepting the status quo.'"
Michael MacGuire at Wigan did not come over mid-season.
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| No Mcguire didn't but then Wigan were'nt in crisis and in danger of losing their most talented player.I didn't mean settle for 2nd best either I mean but Gentle out of his contract we're sinkling fast
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| If we have to wait for Mr Gentle,that's what we do,we can send him video's of the matches we have left.We also ask
him to scourer Australia for reinforcements,we then try to finish as high as we can.
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| Surely the fact he wants to honour his contract means he is a man of integrity.
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| Decision made. Not gonna blow your socks off this one if it's the one I've been told. If it is this person, then it's none of the above, unless the club spring a last minute turnaround.
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| did you apply yourself dogpie?
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