It's alright,

100K was far too much for a player who's only had 20 good SL games.

We've signed Ben Roberts, no fee involved who's played 140 games in the NRL. Not saying he's a world beater, but at this time. Daryl Powell rates him much higher than Sneyd.

So it's good business for all 3 clubs.

I think the difference is that these four products of the Salford Half Back Finishing School are all out and out scrum-halves, using the traditional definition of a scrum-half as being short and mobile (mobile-ish in Matty Smith's case). Marc Sneyd is more of a stand-off.

Treating Marc as a scrum-half, I'd certainly put him behind Matty Smith, because Matty can organise and I'm not sure Marc can. Robinson and Fages are different types of player altogether, while Myler is just the poor man's Danny McGuire (who we also got a fair whack for).

I'm sure Fages is a French product and Myler started at Widnes.

Stop being pedantic.

They cut their teeth at Salford, irrespective of starting their development elsewhere. I think that's what is being referred to.

We have given Marc a chance to play in a semi-final and a potential Wembley appearance though - something that both Salford and Hull FC are miles away from unfortunately.

We got to Wembley last year with an average team, it could happen next season who knows, if Widnes can get this close I'm sure Hull and Salford could next year. Obviously it won't happen this year, but it could next year, so thats a bit of a silly post.

Dave - it was aimed at a comment regarding finances and winning pay. I have no doudt Hull will come good sooner rather than later.

Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Of course he was. Seymour was on a trial because of his previous indescresions. I also don't recall seeing Sneyd's name in any Cas fans starting 13 prior to the first game of the season.'" Apologies for dragging this thread back to an earlier point but this is the first time since last post I've come across here. On this point JGR, you're completely and utterly wrong. Most people listed Sneyd as their starting half. Here's a thread for you www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtop ... =3&t=24963 The real conundrum was the Dorn/Seymour/Ellis situation. Lining up alongside Seymour was the expectation. As the season got nearer people selected Sneyd and Finn, obviously when Finn signed and after the friendlies.

Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Of course he was. Seymour was on a trial because of his previous indescresions. I also don't recall seeing Sneyd's name in any Cas fans starting 13 prior to the first game of the season.'" Apologies for dragging this thread back to an earlier point but this is the first time since last post I've come across here. On this point JGR, you're completely and utterly wrong. Most people listed Sneyd as their starting half. Here's a thread for you www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtop ... =3&t=24963 The real conundrum was the Dorn/Seymour/Ellis situation. Lining up alongside Seymour was the expectation. As the season got nearer people selected Sneyd and Finn, obviously when Finn signed and after the friendlies.

The question I was asked was name British scrum halves they could have got for less- so I answered. I hope it works out for Sneyd -as god knows we need an international half back mcbananaman is willing to pick. (I'm sure the Irish cap will be overlooked) but 100k is over the odds IMO.
Few players go for that transfer fee, fewer with just a year left on contract and for just a handful of top level games there's ..... Well..... Who?

Apologies I didn't get that.

I asked you to name better scrum halfs than Hull could for 100k.

Of the 4 you named, Fages isn't a better player (currentley), we wouldn't be able to sign Myler and Smith as there clubs wouldn't release them (plus I reckon both would command over 100K), so that would leave Robinson as the only viable option of those mentioned, personally I would rather pay 100K for Sneyd than 50K for Robinson, he is younger with a lot more potential.

Also Sneyd has played 65 games at the top level, not really a handful.

It might not work out for him at Hull and then the 100K woudl seem like a lot, but if we can get a good few years out of him and he can perform to the level he has at Cas, that it is a great investment.

Personally think Fages is an equally good scrum halve to Sneyd and if I'm honest is a proper scrum halve where Sneyd as has been mentioned before he is more of a stand off. Sneyd is a top quality kicker which adds considerably to his value. I think if Fages and Sneyd both played for 3 years as a scrum halve week in week out Theo would progress into the much better of the two but Sneyd will without doubt become an even better player than he has shown he is this season if Hull surround him with other talented players.

You're arguing so vociferously on this subject I'm beginning to wonder who you're trying to convince, us or yourself?

I need no convincing, I think it is great money spent, such limited good halfbacks in world rugby, he is the type of player we would have missed out on a few years ago. If you had seen the amount of injured or poor halfbacks I have seen at Hull the last few years, you would also be getting excited like me. I suppose its the same as Salford fans seeing poor players over the last few years or their best players being sold, you have to enjoy the good moments.

Fages has been very underwhelming this season, he needs to step up and improve dramatically in my opinion. Still wouldn't surprise me if he was named young player of year again though, he can't do anything wrong if you beleive people. Theo has to be loaned out for me and prove himself like Sneyd has done this season.

What makes me laugh, since Sneyd put in be request some of our fans have come out with, well he's only got a good boot. Now the Cas fans who where quite frankly obsessed with the opportunity of signing him, they are coming out well, he only had a good half a season and we got Roberts coming over with X amount of games under his belt and is the better option. Don't know why fans of both sides turn soon as a player decided to leave or choose another club. As a fan, I would of live Marc to have stay but circumstances have meant he see's his future elsewhere. Again as a fan, I'm disappointed another youth product (if you beleive people we don't produce any) will be plying his trade elsewhere next season. We now have numerous players from out system dotted around SL, I would like to keep these players and have home grown core from SRD. Fans may have not got their back up over MS moving on as we as a club are in much better position to sign better players. There may be the odd few like myself that would rater have a team full of, Evalds, Sneyd, Walne brothers, Davidson, Owen rather than players such as J Murphy, McGoldrick, Muallaney, T Smith, S Rapira, T Lee, the list could go on TBH.

Ps for the grammar police sorry if there is a couple mistakes, I'm in my phone.

How big is your phone?

Samsung D500

Some good points.

I'm a Salford fan who thought Sneyd was good for us. Not consistent but well above average. All this in a poor team at the time. I haven't seen anything to change my mind after watching him for Cas. He's had some good performances and some poor ones. The difference being he's been playing in a better side than last seasons Salford side. I don't buy all the Cas fans saying he's made vast improvements under their coaching in comparison. They're basing that on the fact that he's performed well overall so far in a team that's riding a crest of a wave. If they'd have struggled in the table so far but Sneyd played the same they wouldn't be making the same calls. Plus most of it stems from the 'we want to keep him at all costs' brigade.

I can't speak for anyone else, but the loss of Sneyd for me isn't hitting me hard. For the simple reason that the players ahead of him in the pecking order at Salford are, in my opinion, much better. If we didn't have Chase or Dobson it would be hitting much harder.

I agree with that. We can only go by what we see, and we've seen Marc more than most over the past few years. Like any other player, he's had good games and bad games, but I don't think he's ever achieved the heights Rangi has achieved for us at times this season. On the two occasions we've faced him this year, he's been pretty anonymous, while, each time, Rangi has been far more effective (particularly in the game at ours, where he turned in a MoM performance). While it's always disappointing to see a home grown player leave, I'm pretty happy with the way things have turned out.

First and foremost,I'm happy with the way things have turned out with us having Chase and Dobson,with Sneyd now developing his career elsewhere.
Drinks all round.
Maybe I'm not the best judge of a young player but I didn't think Sneyd had this in him. He has come on leaps and bounds since he went to Cas. What we don't know is whether he would have matured so well had he had another season with us.
I don't think they'll let Theo go out on loan but ,unless he gets the necessary game time,his development could stall.

Not wishing any ills on the lad ,but if he was to pick up a lengthy injury , would we be responsible for his rehab still .

I think the quote from the Doc on the BBC last night was telling, he said that Hull paid more for Sneyd than he himself would have paid and that the fee was more than £100,000.

Pretty obvious based on this that we got a brilliant deal for him.

Yes, as he is still a Salford contracted player.

Is it not different for a season long loan?

I'm not sure this is a big issue.
He's currently on a relatively small contract and I would guess Cas are fully responsible because , as Red Willow rightly says, it'll be different when it's a season long loan.
If there is a problem,it would come if he was injured and not fit enough to start the season with Hull.
We could speculate all day but it really depends what the transfer documents say