www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=1546 You've got to give it to the Star, they've got this up quick

www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=1546 You've got to give it to the Star, they've got this up quick

Really do hope it's not a small final straw on the camels back ...... and agree with most - if RFL don't put the same effort into saving Salford as they did with Bradford, then they can shove their SL up their double standard backsides ..... the league has enough problems without further splits based on perceived size/importance ......

Really hope you avoid everything we went through. I certainly don't recommend the experience.

Is this a wind up?

I am very close to the point of not really giving a s#it anymore about Salford and RL in general but this is what I heard several weeks ago.

SG was initially brought in by the club as consultants. The club agreed in advance to pay them a set figure for this work. The consultants then took it upon themselves to do additional work on behalf of a third party. SG then incorrectly assumed they would be paid despite having no formal agreement to undertake the extra work.

Following a disagreement or refusal of payment SG then decided to invoice the club for the additional work despite having no written/verbal agreement with Salford RLFC.

Like I said in an earlier post, these consultancy firms are often very quick off the mark in going to law as they have no other levers. If what redshed says is right, then clearly the club should fight their corner - if SG cannot show a purchase order for the work allegedly done then they cannot expect payment - simple.

So who is in the right here? Will we ever find out?

If that is the case then the club are justified in not paying and fighting this order?
I don't fully understand what a winding up order is but if the club were found guilty and wound up would that then allow someone new to walk in with no debts attached? if so could possibly be a blessing in disguise and make the possiblity of buying the club a much more attractive proposition.

While anything of this nature is not good news, there is no immediate danger of Salford going out of business. As aluded too, the amount is small in relative terms and in general terms (without direct reference to this case) any dispute can relate to a principle or refusal to pay based on the nature or quality of the work provided, as well as an inability to pay, or any number of other reasons.

Not quite as straight forward as that, any new company would have to apply for a rugby league licence depending on which division they applied for. it would then be up to the other clubs to vote them that licence, before they can even operate as a club. Yes the debts would be clear but the new company would need to build trust within the RL community.So whilst it could be a good thing it can also be bad.

what happend to the holdsworth money?

You ain't going to be wound up for a small amount. I can't see how the club can be confident of winning the case if that was so we would not got to a winding up petition in the first place as they would have sorted it by now. The must have a case against club or wind up order would not have been granted.

Good grief!!! There is NO winding up order granted. All that has happened is that Steur Greggson have had a winding up PETITION filed - if it goes to a hearing - 29th October THEN the court will decide. Anyone CAN file a petition if they pay the fee to the court. Many years ago I once issued a winding up petition for The Royal Bank of Scotland over an unpaid invoice - what it does do is concentrate the mind because if you don't respond then it is assumed that you are in the wrong and you just get wound up.

To say "you ain't going to be wound up for a small amount" is completely wrong - you can be wound up for any amount IF the debt is shown to be genuine and unpaid.

You have to agree it doesn't look good. Your correct that the amount is irrelevant other than just pay it or agree an out of court settlement. The worst part of all of this is that this is a club sponsor taking this action.

Yes of course I agree it doesn't look good - but just let's suppose that the earlier post regarding submission of invoices for un-ordered services is correct and the SG lot are just playing the bully - it may be in the club's interest to go to court on the 29th and argue their case - who knows?

And got their facts wrong. This is not a winding up order.

Martyn Sadler tweeted me back saying there will be some key developments in the next few days, to which I replied good or bad. His reply was very non committal saying it all depends what happens in the next few days.

If this was Facebook I would like this comment!

If there is to be a takeover and a financial reconstruction,this could just be a tactical move.
Odd,if its a small amount,that he's appointed specialists to deal with it.

Hope that you guys can sort this out.

A very genuine best of luck.

The way I see it, no matter who is right or who is wrong, the club is once again in deep .
I have defended the club many times but we cannot keep defending our club at all costs, the club is f....d & just maybe this is the spark needed one way or other.

Hey, at least something's happening.

It's about time the wheels started turning at the Club, for bad or good. The Club sitting around and having very little to communicate to us was like a little death.

I hope everything gets sorted out at Salford for the club and all of the fans. Best of Luck.

For the comments regarding the RFL helping Bradford financially.. they havent thrown a pot of money at the bulls. They advanced money so Bradford could complete their fixtures and not cause problems within the league because it was mid season.

Our new owners arent being paid SKY money for the moment so next season will run the club on their own cash.

All though the club are partly to blame for this I also think the rfl should look at its self making clubs who can't afford stadium made to have one. The clubs gate target I thought was unachiveable on Friday night but I think they had chance if moved it to Sunday. But how is an investor going to view this can't make the club worth buying. I fear for club now

so you're to blame for them going t1t5 up

Im not so sure.. Salford location wise is fantastic, you have an excellent stadium & good facilities. I don't know about your fan base but surely with some excellent marketing you could increase your gate and then start to benefit from the new stadium.

Although it doesnt help you now, I think the RFL have relaxed the ground rules for the moment due to the current climate. Castleford look to benefit from this for the moment but they should have done something along these lines sooner. Rugby League doesnt make money, unfortunately we have to accept this now and expecting clubs to build shiny new grounds to stay in Super League is a big ask IMO.