Isnt that what the academy is for? Anyway you agreeing with M.R, as put me in a state of shock.

It seems that the brain injury rate around Salford is more serious than previously thought.

I can't believe that DI or anyone else would think that Senior is worth a punt. Far too much of a gamble, even on a pay-as-you-play deal. What is the point in bringing in a well-seasoned, old and injury-ridden centre? The only reason would be to hope he remains on the pitch more than off it to plug a gap for 12 months. That's not going to help the team in the long run when we have two young and talented wingers who will constantly have to change centre partners over the next few years if the Club decide to sign stop-gap players. Better to bring in a longer-term centre who is more likely to stay on the field over the course of a season and let a partnership develop. That could be from our own ranks or not.

The odds would be heavily stacked against you if you were to sign Senior. Injury-free with reasonable fitness he could do the business. But just because he's done it in a very good Leeds team for a number of seasons, coupled with age, injuries and lack of a long-term option means for me, the gamble would be too great.

The Club would be better suited putting money behind a more secure venture than a retiring, injury hit ex-star out for a final pay-day.

Do you know anybody with a brain injury or their family who have to look after these people?

He has not got one,from us.

I take it you live in Salford area then Butcher.

I actually agree with your last point, regarding a more secure venture, but the hierachy haven't, and won't. So the next best thing imo is to try to unleash these talanted wingers we have with an experienced, classy centre with a bit of nouse who has been their and done it. Our wingers would score and learn so much more off a fit and healthy Keith Senior than Gleeson, Gibson and Vievers put together. You should know you were a centre yourself. Or has the thirozene worn off.

Exactly DI,and another thing to add,they would`nt get bullied off the opposing centres,put it this way ,face gleeson or an half fit senior.I know who i`d want on my side.

Yeah definately agree Mitie mouse, Senior has plenty of aggression in his game which gives players around him that second wind which spurs you on. Our current centres are weak defensively and get rag dolled about far to often when they hit the ball up, and they lose collision frequently.

I disagree with you DI on one point.

I agree that on his day, Senior is a great Centre. He could provide an incredible platform for Williams or Broughton and this is where I disagree...

...could.

The likely outcome that Senior could replicate his best Rugby for one of our capable wingers? Odds are dropping.

My only disagreement is the fact that time is not on Keith's side. For a team like Salford, where we can't afford to carry players, the odds of Senior being a dud are too high imo.

For the record I never played Centre, amateur or for Salford. As for "Thirozene" once I find out what the hell it is I'll let you know. As a guess, is it a substance that changes your ability to spell it?

Thirazine

I'm sure i saw you play centre and second row, and i would take the gamble on Keith purely for Jodies pace.

A player for Leeds was brain damaged playing against Salford back in the seventies,i have took offence off your posts about brain damaged people,please explain why you think its appropriate.A very good friend of mine was also brain damaged in a car crash,please tell me why if anybody disagrees with you they are brain damaged?

The Butcher shows immaturity with Brain injury comments. Lets hope he doesn't have to suffer such bad brain injury, or any type on dimentia in his life time. Not funny.

No it is`nt funny,i want him to and go and tell my mates two sons how funny it is,i don`t think they or his family would find it funny either.l

I said brain injury, and that covers a lot of ground. A knock to the head is classed as a brain injury. Brain Damage is something else. Let's not get bogged down in semantics, however. If I offended you then I suppose you should lighten-up a little. I'm pretty sure that you realised that it was a symbolic statement based on the absurdity of an argument. The arguments level of nonsense being the base of the said statement. Like someone saying that someone else is "crazy" because they form the opposite opinion. They are obviously not "Crazy" in any medical terminology but within the terminology of the English Language, the turn of phrase is readily understood.

If the scoring or moral "points" is the intended outcome of this debate, then I'm sure some moral high ground is to be gained by being "outraged" at a slight twist of language to convey an effect. In that case you win.

If, like most normal human beings, you take a statement at face value and presume its effect based solely on its impact to convey a feeling rather than read too much into the literal, you would not make the statements mentioned above.

In other words, lighten up ffs...

No chance,1st time you mentioned brain injury i took it as that,2nd time i will not accept,you need stopping.

..And here's the point I was making, it's a big 'IF' and time isn't on his side. What gets me is that you think that just because you know him that somehow he's right for us, we can pay what he wants and that he'll have some 'miracle' effect on our three quarter line - and you think you could do a better job than Steve Simms???

Lost for words.

and you think you could do a better job than Steve Simms???

Lost for words.'"

So, to use Dante's own language, it's safe to say he wants Keith Senior in the squad because he's a KS asslicker who sees him through rose tinted spectacles.

Careful of not upsetting the Keith Senior love-fest brigade. They've only just borrowed the Specs off the JW lot and are refusing to give them back.

I also apologise in advance to anyone who knows someone who's had a relative trampled by a love-fest brigade. It's no laughing matter when someone is suffocated by love...

What about us people who are too poor to afford glasses for all the family meaning we have to share them.

You Sir will be hearing from my legal team

And you MR will be hearing, subject to legal aid, from members of my family who thorough IB entitlement, can get individual glasses, and so are subjected to Daily Mail derision through having such glasses.

Rose tinted specs, never, i can see KS being a bigger threat to the opposition than the below par centre's we currently have at the club, in attack and defence, and just because i happen to have had an insight into how the guy trains, makes me an asslicker. Very poor Red John.

Talking of asslickers, you've actually named yourself after yours.

so who is Red john's asslicker?

No DI.

Having an insight doesn't make you an asslicker. Something you might want to remember when the multitude of people with insight into JW were telling you something similar.

If you're going to stick to a narrow-minded argument at least have the ability to not become a hypocrite.

Just come to this thread now. Is it worth reading?