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| Quote ="barton baird"So this means kicking someone whilst they are down o.k. then.Yes I do have morals and giving someone a good kicking with the aid of a mate is not good in my book.I would have had the same views if this coward had been an F.C. player.'"
Where does it say it is OK???? My point is there is accuracy in reporting the whole issue....
zandor46 - as for me numbering up the points I thought you'd be used to that with your defence.
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| I'm as much a Hull KR fan as the next guy, and before actually seeing the video the other day I was "tryin" to defend the guy in terms of he has been given his punishment blah blah.
But when I saw the video, my view changed, and I see the only way is to begrudgingly sack the player (begrudgingly cos of his quality) or slap a very heavy suspension on him.
As a club we need to do something that shows that we like the rest of the rl world, don't condone such behaviour
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"All those with higher than tho morals come to the fore after incident like these.
2 facts that appear to be forgotten!
1) the lad that was injured received mere cuts and bruises (not condoning by the way)
2) The injured party contacted Ben Cockayne and asked if he wanted to do 'deal' to save going to court.
How injured was the injured?'"
According to [url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Victim-relives-terrifying-assault-KR-star/article-873000-detail/article.htmlthis[/url Basil they were multiple injuries.
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| Quote ="OrdsallRed"Castleford have sacked their player who was involved in this...fair play to them for that'"
Yes they have, but to be fair he was a second tier player, i doubt the outcome would have been the same had it been one of their top players like Joe westerman for instance.
As part of Ben Cockaynes punishment, he should be required to go into the schools and preach to the kids that it is unacceptable for someone to carry out this kind of act and the consequences of doing so, thats after he's made a grovelling apology to the club and the fans for letting them down.The same applies to players of other clubs who have been found guilty of crimes that bring shame upon themselses, their clubs and their fans.
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| Quote ="barton baird"So this means kicking someone whilst they are down o.k. then.Yes I do have morals and giving someone a good kicking with the aid of a mate is not good in my book.I would have had the same views if this coward had been an F.C. player.'"
I hope that includes Raynor.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"I hope that includes Raynor.'"
I include any player who lets themselves and the game down mate.
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| Barbaric in the extreme.
There should be no second chance for him even after he has served his dues, I am amazed that he didnt get a very heavy custodial sentence for that shocking attack, also shows the pair for the cowards they are when a women tries to interviene and they simply shove her out of the way (I guess in a certain way she is fortunate they didnt batter her too).
I hope RL bans him for life and that being the talent he is other sports (ok union) treat him with the same utter contempt.
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| how the feck is this scumbag not in strangeways is completely beyond me fecking soft magistraites he should never ever be allowed to play our great game at any level again
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| How did he manage to get a suspended sentence
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"Where does it say it is OK???? My point is there is accuracy in reporting the whole issue....
zandor46 - as for me numbering up the points I thought you'd be used to that with your defence.
The abyss calls'"
typical answer the abyss called and we p?ssed it off
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| Quote ="monkeytowner"How did he manage to get a suspended sentence'"
they hang him Monday
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| We believe that dismissing Ben, although an easier option for the club, would not offer the rehabilitative support that Ben needs at this time
Hull KR statement
Not really, just thinking about the club and losing a talented player, so sacking was never an option, Salford Still have the high moral ground
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| A shocking cop out to only suspend him, and I hope that every single player and fan from other clubs (and his own if they have any backbone) treat him like the pariah he is.
Hull KR have walked away from this with no credibility and have made the game of Rugby League look very poor indeed.
[size=150=redSHAME ON YOU HULL KR.[/size
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| Quote ="Bigpev"We believe that dismissing Ben, although an easier option for the club, would not offer the rehabilitative support that Ben needs at this time
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Not really, just thinking about the club and losing a talented player, so sacking was never an option, =redSalford Still have the high moral ground'"
what's it got to do with Salford?
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| Quote ="roversmad"what's it got to do with Salford?'"
we sacked a player last season who was convicted of the same offence and incarcerated, just seems like some clubs don't care that Rugby League is supposed to be a family sport. Hull KR being one such club.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"we sacked a player last season who was convicted of the same offence and incarcerated, just seems like some clubs don't care that Rugby League is supposed to be a family sport. Hull KR being one such club.'"
High profile first team player by any chance?
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| Quote ="roversmad"High profile first team player by any chance?'"
It was Damian Reid, who would probably have been in the first team. Keep in mind Stephen Bannister was also given the boot and he looked like a very promising player.
Either way, what's it got to do with whether or not they're sacked. Basically what you're saying is if they're good then they can get away with whatever they want.
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| Quote ="Adamjk"It was Damian Reid, who would probably have been in the first team. Keep in mind Stephen Bannister was also given the boot and he looked like a very promising player.
Either way, what's it got to do with whether or not they're sacked. Basically what you're saying is if they're good then they can get away with whatever they want.
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No but what would be the point of sacking him when he would just be signed by someone else
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| Quote ="monkeytowner"How did he manage to get a suspended sentence'"
Due to the fact that the criminal justice system in this country is in a hopeless state.
The Home Office/ Home Secretary are useless cant even submit and process a simple expenses claim let alone run the justice system.
The judges are in a dream world and are oblivious to the one that we live in too busy working out their pensions.
Some of the defence barristers are like a corkscrew.
The CPS should appeal against the light sentence immediately.
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| Quote ="roversmad"No but what would be the point of sacking him when he would just be signed by someone else'"
Besides the point. If the club had any decency they wouldn't care who signed him - it would be the other club who were frowned upon. It's a cheap excuse in my opinion
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| Quote ="Adamjk"Besides the point. If the club had any decency they wouldn't care who signed him - it would be the other club who were frowned upon. It's a cheap excuse in my opininon'"
Ok then
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| Quote ="roversmad"Ok then'"
I assume that means you have no comeback to it...?
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| Quote ="Adamjk"Basically what you're saying is if they're good then they can get away with whatever they want.
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[i*cough*[/i John Wilshire. [i*cough*[/i Stephen Bannister.
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| Quote ="EX.SALF.UNI"[i*cough*[/i John Wilshire. [i*cough*[/i Stephen Bannister.'"
Bannister was kicked out the club and you can't seriously be comparing what Wilshere did to what Cockayne did?
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