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| These are exciting times and nobody forgets just how close to the brink we were and how promising the future looks. Some of the fans were way out of order.
Having said all that,the worrying thing is that if you accept the players put in maximum effort,we looked so poor in every department.
If Forans job is to guide us round the pitch then Sneyd,as good as he was last week,can't be his partner. His style is not sufficiently structured or readable.
Felt sorry for Murphy,but only shortage of numbers keep him in the team.
Wilds been a good player but only the captaincy is keeping him in the team now and the second rowers are too similar.
So,I'd change the back three by playing 3 props to beef up the back and drop Wild,play Theo instead of Sneyd and make a change at full back.
I'm not sure whether Sneyd couldn't play there.
I expect to get hammered for my comments on Sneyd but I'd put money on him not being in the halves beyond the next 2 or 3 games at most
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| On last nights evidence I actually agree on Sneyd & Foran, they were in all the same positions & didn't play as a pair but I thought Sneyd was the better of them last night as I'd expect given Foran had jet lag & trained for 30mins with the team. Sneyd was the only one who looked like creating a break, another plus I felt Gleeson had a good game considering he was either without a winger or was the winger.
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| I have learnt over the years to know after each success there is always likely to be a big fall, however I was concerned last night by the basic errors we committed, which had nothing to do with London playing well but more to do with our application. I was also concerned at super league level surely the playing staff would arrive mid day & not attempt to be at the club hours before kick off. Maybe it is my lack of understanding but I would have thought match day at any professional level the day was all about preparation.
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| Yes,the Broughton situation is ludicrous.
These guys are full time professionals.
The Clubs instructions to players clearly need to be amended
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| I do worry that we don't appear to have anyone who takes control of the team on the field - Wilde isn't a bad player but he is not captain material and make me wonder if O'Dwyer has been told if he comes he's going to be captain which he looks ready made for.
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| It will be very interesting to see what kind of response there will be at Wakefield next week.
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| I think it will be less to do with pure coaching and far more to do with team selection and motivation.
If he puts the same team out then we will lose heavily.
He has my best wishes to succeed generally but he now has to make the most of limited resources.
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| The reference earlier to a full back signing today where does this come from?
Would be nice if it were Fishiai (sp).
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| Quote ="Michigan red"The reference earlier to a full back signing today where does this come from?
Would be nice if it were Fishiai (sp).'"
Koukash was interviewed on the radio after the game. Said that we had someone who was on the verge of signing but couldn't name them yet and it should hopefully be announced today.
He was pretty scathing with his comments, saying that last night was unacceptable and that anyone who wasn't putting in the effort would be out the door.
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Yes,the Broughton situation is ludicrous.
These guys are full time professionals.
The Clubs instructions to players clearly need to be amended'"
Anyone who's played at a decent level will tell you there is nothing worse than hanging around before kick-off. Some players can't speak to anyone. Some players throw-up. It's like waiting to go 'Over the top'. It would be bad practice for a Club to insist that all its playing staff turn up extra early on the off chance that there'll be a massive accident on the motorway. Also pretty ludicrous. Best place for a player is where he can relax and get ready with his own private thoughts before a game. Not hanging around the place for no reason.
People banging on about Broughton need to think with a little more head and less heart. Some circumstances are beyond everyone's control.
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| Having followed Salford for 45 years I am used to losing, but it is the manner in which we lose that gets to me. I know when a player has sweated blood for the shirt and when he hasn,t. Big disappointment was the last game at the Willows with so many stay away fans getting to the game and witnessing the same old story. Half the team didn,t give a toss. I just hope that the good Dr can instil a winning mentality into the club and this is crucial in our recruitment policy. I love PV but not sure whether he is the right man to organise and motivate a team of big name players (all with egos) to bring success we are craving for.
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| Quote ="Adamjk"Koukash was interviewed on the radio after the game. Said that we had someone who was on the verge of signing but couldn't name them yet and it should hopefully be announced today.
He was pretty scathing with his comments, saying that last night was unacceptable and that anyone who wasn't putting in the effort would be out the door.'"
are none of you worried by the phrase...."i havent come here to sit and watch games like tonight?"
however much you like to mock Wires and Moran, with Moran being a lifelong fan even before he made his millions he would never say that.......
I'm sure you can interpret it as koukash setting extremely high standards and not putting up with rubbish, but it could be interpreted as: "if it all turns to poop I'm off ...... I'm not a boyhood fan of this rubbish?"
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| I think it's just the way you interpret it. It can be inferred both positively and negatively. Don't think he'll walk, he's not that kind of bloke.
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| If it was just about watching matches he could have bought a season ticket, which would have been (marginally) easier than buying the club. He's bought the club with the intention of making it successful, and I'd interpret his comments about last night's game in that context.
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| I think the Dr's comments were very much directed at his coaches and players. He's setting the bar high and won't accept performances like last night.
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| Well hes here for at least 5 years as he has signed up to the CVA.
In my opinion He was right to comment `publicly` as being `open` is always the best policy.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"are none of you worried by the phrase...."i havent come here to sit and watch games like tonight?"
however much you like to mock Wires and Moran, with Moran being a lifelong fan even before he made his millions he would never say that.......
I'm sure you can interpret it as koukash setting extremely high standards and not putting up with rubbish, but it could be interpreted as: "if it all turns to poop I'm off ...... I'm not a boyhood fan of this rubbish?"'"
No - not worried by the quote
No - Never mocked Warrington for SJM , only for nicking everyone else's players ....
No - he's made a high profile promise to Salford fans to deliver a winning team , Money is not as important as the honour of delivering on that vow. He's more likely to move on once he's acheived something .
I don't believe he has set extremely high standards just to see a hardworking competitive team capable of a much higher league position ,I am worried by the volatility & it's not going to be an easy ride to play & coach at Salford under our new owner , maybe thats a good thing after excepting mediocraty & low expectations for decades.
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| Poor poor performance , been going to salford for 35 years and one of the most toothless performances I've seen . No spark , less imagination and not a single sight of aggression
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| Quote ="Andyjc7"Poor poor performance , been going to salford for 35 years and one of the most toothless performances I've seen . No spark , less imagination and not a single sight of aggression'"
I totally agree no aggression being the main one! We need a team of hard nuts not soft lads jewitt and McPhearson are the only 2 this year that have shown some biff!
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Anyone who's played at a decent level will tell you there is nothing worse than hanging around before kick-off. Some players can't speak to anyone. Some players throw-up. It's like waiting to go 'Over the top'. It would be bad practice for a Club to insist that all its playing staff turn up extra early on the off chance that there'll be a massive accident on the motorway. Also pretty ludicrous. Best place for a player is where he can relax and get ready with his own private thoughts before a game. Not hanging around the place for no reason.
People banging on about Broughton need to think with a little more head and less heart. Some circumstances are beyond everyone's control.'"
Let's just agree to disagree.
Hanging around is the worst part but,if this were to happen to a professional soccer player or,dare I say it, Union player,it would be regarded as totally unacceptable .
It's not just the head and heart equation.
This is a professional sport and needs to be respected.
By the way,closures on the M62 on Friday afternoons are not exactly rarities.
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| Christ take them down to Boysnope to the driving range if they need anything to do.
I'd be more inclined to get a sports psychologist in to talk to them before the games and try to instill a little more self belief.
Bottom line is a more professional attitude would to have the squad together all day, controlled diet and more chances for hand on the shoulder personal coaching.
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| What happened to pre match meals and meetings? This can't happen again.
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| I think it tells you everything you need to know when your hardest running player is a 32 year old centre. Lets hope it was just a blip and the lads can turn things around next week.
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| I think we all need to get a reality check...and remember where the club were a few weeks ago...I remember being at the SOS fundraiser thinking that was it...yes last nights performance was painful to watch but it's going to take time...winning last week probably raised false expectations....last few seasons a lot of our attacking threat came from the Pattern/Houldsworth /Smith formation.... Moon and Sean Gleeson also contributed a lot in attack last season..They have all gone now...the new players need time to gel..think Sneyd is a cracking player but it's asking a lot for a young guy to perform at the top level every week..against Hull KR he was great but last night some of his kicking game was poor...I think to improve our league standing we desperately need a quality fullback ( someone who can actually catch a high bomb would be a start} and 2 props who can break a line.. Boyle and James are never Superleague standard in my opinion
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| Can someone please explain what Murphy brings to the team? He is a player from somewhere else, we would be better playing Evalds give him experience.
As for the rest of the team 3 simple errors, Gibson not connecting, the player failing to collect the ball in front of the West Stand and the inability of Murphy to knock a ball hard enough for it to go dead.
I said earlier this week we need a leader on the field. The team last night looked like they had never met. At this stage of the season I'll accept losses but expect the players to look up for it and to give their all.
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