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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"
Just out of curiosity and not being a local, what exactly is the Salford Star '" It's one of the doc's future named horses and it's head is going to end up on someone's pillow. |
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I can't imagine much of what has been published being true. However, just to point out, just because somebody appears to be very rich does not make them financially stable.
There have been plenty of millionaires/billionaires who have seen their supposed fortunes disappear as quickly as they built them... See a certain Robert Maxwell for a good example.
Just out of curiosity and not being a local, what exactly is the Salford Star and what's its problem with Koukash and/or your club?'"
It publishes as much tripe as possible against us because of the stadium financing/public money invested into, and basically has a massive downer on everything Salford RLFC related as a consequence. Nearly all of which stems from the previous administration, but they seem to have a beef with the new administration too. |
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| Quote ="Rommel"https://twitter.com/drmarwanK/status/608679292004888577
Disgusting comment from your owner, no class'"
Koucash has no class and really did not to react in such a way. Most in the RL community are seeing the article in the Salford Star for what it is; gutter journalism, so Koucash would have been better taking the moral high ground rather than resorting to the same gutter. |
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| Quote ="Rommel"https://twitter.com/drmarwanK/status/608679292004888577
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| Quote ="Rommel"https://twitter.com/drmarwanK/status/608679292004888577
Disgusting comment from your owner, no class'"
Oooh. A naughty word. Burn him. Witch! |
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| Quote ="Rommel"https://twitter.com/drmarwanK/status/608679292004888577
Disgusting comment from your owner, no class'"
I don't want to get drawn into a silly and pointless exchange but aren't you being hypocritical when you post a direct link on a public forum to something you obviously consider offensive? |
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Look,I think the Salford Star is reprehensible and the worst sort of left wing rag.
I hope the half truths are untruths.
I hope MK stays with us for 20 years.
At the other end of the propaganda spectrum,however,is your assertion that he's a billionaire and runs one of the biggest training firms in the world ( which,even if true,wouldn't make him a billionaire- do the maths )
Neither of these are important in relation to his ownership of Salford,or our progress,but we're in danger of replacing one set of journalistic claims,hopefully untrue,with another set which more suit our argument.'"
Responsible press in Oz have stated Dr K is worth from $900m to $3bn. This is repeated on Dr Ks Wikipedia page. I am sure a social media savvy guy like the doc would have been decent enough to correct a misrepresentation?
I can do basic maths thus my amazement that Dr K being a billionaire. Good luck to him.
I couldn't see him in the Sunday Times rich list nor have I seen where his company is registered.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Responsible press in Oz have stated Dr K is worth from $900m to $3bn. This is repeated on Dr Ks Wikipedia page. I am sure a social media savvy guy like the doc would have been decent enough to correct a misrepresentation?
I can do basic maths thus my amazement that Dr K being a billionaire. Good luck to him.
I couldn't see him in the Sunday Times rich list nor have I seen where his company is registered.
I suspect these wider matters are important re Salford red devils.'"
Fair comment,apart from describing Aussie press as responsible !
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Unfortunately public information doesn't lie:
[code20 May 2015 County Court Judgment COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE B5AA999Y £39,359
05 May 2015 County Court Judgment COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE B4QZ263R £448
22 Apr 2015 County Court Judgment COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE A8QZ400H £8,122
16 Apr 2015 Satisfied CCJ COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE B9AA990M £2,135
14 Apr 2015 County Court Judgment COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE B2AM473K £247[/code
Only one has been settled. For someone so 'rich' you'd expect that he'd pay up before CCJs are issued.
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That "safe hands" tweet is thoroughly disgraceful. Should be reprimanded by RFL.
Shows money never buys class.
Feel genuinely sorry for you guys. You finally get someone with the resources to make a proper go of Salford RL, but you then get hamstrung by MKs ego. It's like Salford have simply provided a media outlet for him.
All the players on twitter reading that must be wondering what on earth the type of club he's running at Salford. Why would players want to join?
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Won't somebody please think of the children! Get a grip for god sake, there's nout wrong with it. Your mock outrage is hilarious
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| Quote ="invmatt"Unfortunately public information doesn't lie:
[code20 May 2015 County Court Judgment COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE B5AA999Y £39,359
05 May 2015 County Court Judgment COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE B4QZ263R £448
22 Apr 2015 County Court Judgment COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE A8QZ400H £8,122
16 Apr 2015 Satisfied CCJ COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE B9AA990M £2,135
14 Apr 2015 County Court Judgment COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE B2AM473K £247[/code
Only one has been settled. For someone so 'rich' you'd expect that he'd pay up before CCJs are issued.'"
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I don't see the tweet as being disgusting, disgraceful whatever.
I do see it thought as childish and unprofessional.
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It says in the Salford Star article that Lama Tasi left last month for St Helens. Has he gone already or is this another possible inaccuracy?
I found this comment quite amusing -
The Salford Star asked Salford Red Devils to comment on all these allegations but, as yet, has received no response.
Why would the club waste a second of their time responding when they have deliberately attempted to negatively influence the Salford public's opinions about the club over the past 5 years?
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Its probably a case that the CCJs are and issue of wont pay rather than cant pay - MKs ego yet again? Its a poor way to do business, and with a player publicly stating he is owed money its hardly going to help Salfords cause at the moment. He may have brought the club the money you needed but your owner is certainly holding you back in other ways.
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Which player says he is owed money TP?
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I don't think the SS like Salford Reds much.
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a great puff ball piece in the MEN,
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ng-9432173
Sadly a sport journalist was trying to deal with business issues. Plenty of 'non denial denials' there.
No questions about numerous CCJs (which tend to be common for sport clubs with poor finances).
No questions on whether bailiffs have actually been going to the club itself (rather than a story about debt collectors / Bailiffs seeking individuals and the dubious assertion that these people are "regular visitors to all sporting clubs" _- REALLY? Come off it)
Not a single question on whether all players have been paid their full wages on time every time. Nor questions on whether the club has kept up payments on rents and leases. Nothing re Puletua for example.
In fact no specific questions at all.
Despite that the article does manage to be revealing. First Vickers appears to think that free entrance is proof that there is nothing wrong financially whereas it could be proof that people are utterly clueless. Second Vickers is quoted as saying: ‘‘Club affairs are handled by Marwan’s legal people.’’ Not by CEO Vickers?
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a great puff ball piece in the MEN,
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ng-9432173
Sadly a sport journalist was trying to deal with business issues. Plenty of 'non denial denials' there.
No questions about numerous CCJs (which tend to be common for sport clubs with poor finances).
No questions on whether bailiffs have actually been going to the club itself (rather than a story about debt collectors / Bailiffs seeking individuals and the dubious assertion that these people are "regular visitors to all sporting clubs" _- REALLY? Come off it)
Not a single question on whether all players have been paid their full wages on time every time. Nor questions on whether the club has kept up payments on rents and leases. Nothing re Puletua for example.
In fact no specific questions at all.
Despite that the article does manage to be revealing. First Vickers appears to think that free entrance is proof that there is nothing wrong financially whereas it could be proof that people are utterly clueless. Second Vickers is quoted as saying: ‘‘Club affairs are handled by Marwan’s legal people.’’ Not by CEO Vickers?
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If the club are in such a financial mess as reported why would the owner and CEO publicly deny the allegations?
If you consider Salford's current income and expenditure there must be a sizeable shortfall. Therefore it's obvious the club are currently dependant of MK's financial support to balance the books. If there is a problem and the Doc hasn't got the funds to support the club then surely any financial problems would escalate out of control very quickly. I just find it hard to understand why both Koukash and Vickers would poor cold water on a problem if they knew the situation was only going to get a hell of a lot worse.
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Vickers either doesn't know his ar5e from his elbow or he is telling porkies when he talks about bailiffs and player's debts. In his position he must surely be aware of the club's recent CCJ's (5 of them for a total of just over £50k). CCJ x Non-payment within 30 days = a visit from the bailiffs to seize goods.
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After Marwans rude word tweet on the matter it's hard to see how Vickers considers the clubs response to be discreet. He does make sense with some of the other stuff though. It will all come out in the wash as they say.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Hopefully the docs latest tweet, puts this to bed.
"The club is in safe hands, f**k the haters"'"
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Is there anyone on here that think this is actually Marwan Koukash posting on twitter ?'"
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Is there anyone on here that think this is actually Marwan Koukash posting on twitter ?'"
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