You have been misguided by Dr Koukash, money doesnt buy success, if gives you a false position of being successful. The players are very average. Rangi not a patch on what he did for Castleford. Gleeson, Meli both past their sell by dates. Morley good grief, should have finished 3 years ago. Cant honestly think of one Salford player that would get in any of the current top 4 sides. Thats shows how far off the pace you are.
Harris appointment a joke.

Thanks for that Brian.

Actually a BIG improvement since you left the other week.

Players beginning to enjoy their Rugby and do you know I think we still have a squeak in getting into the 8.

What have you done to hansen????

You probably can buy success, but you can't do it straight away. To go from bottom of the league to the top will take several years of building both the club and the first team. Right now to play for Salford poor players will want average wages, average players will want top wages and top players won't come to Salford yet. So Salford first need to become competitive, which they are this season.

Then work their way into the bottom end of the playoffs for the next couple of years. Then players will start re-assessing whether they want to play for Salford or not. Right now Salford are just one step ahead of London and Bradford in their attractiveness to players. But if/when Salford start making the playoffs regularly and the more above average players they sign the more attractive they'll become.

Then suddenly average players will only want average wages etc to play for Salford.

But you can't miss the step out in the middle.

Yeah your spot on about Morley pal, he should have finished 3 years ago. What he was doing captaining and being a corner stone of the best pack in the league and guiding Warrington to a third wembley win and Two Grand finals in his last two years there, I have no idea.

and Hock and Hansen would waltz into the Wigan Side.

I honestly think today with a little more confidence and an old head calling the shots we would have won. Mullaney when he was clear was a perfect example in that he tried to throw the miracle pass rather than take the tackle and attack the line from a good position.

I do wonder if the Doc puts to much pressure on behind the scenes, you can only imagine who great his desire to beat Widnes today after the league game at theirs and the cup defeat and how that desire has manifested itself behind the scenes.

I think over the last couple of weeks or so there has been gradual improvements, what you have to remember Noble bought the players he saw as being right to play a certain style of rugby, Harris is trying to change that and for some you can clearly see that it's a style they are either not used too or are uncomfortable with.

I'll happily give the current management team and players until the end of the season to come good (I still say at some point things will click and then someone is going to get one hell of a battering). I suspect some of the so called big names we signed for this year will either be allowed to find other clubs or pensioned off come the last game and that Harris will bring in some young blood who will forge a team for the years rather than for one season as Noble clearly did.

I'm still more excited going to a Salford game this season than I have been for virtually any season in my 40+ years going to Salford and I have confidence that the Doc will oversee a great period in the clubs history over the coming years.

As someone else who used to post on here occasionally said "keep the faith"

From a neutral's perspective watching Salford play yesterday. The team don't seem prepared to go through their sets of six and simply do the basics.
Rangi Chase tries to do too many fancy things. I'd be tempted to play an ordinary half back and put Chase in the centres, let him be a maverick there as well as put the defensive work in. Once you have set up a solid platform of points, then try something out of the ordinary. You have the players, but they are not knocked into a disciplined unit.
More grunt and less champagne rugby.
Yes they will thrash a lowly team, but surely raising the standard of play against all the others and the better sides would be more pleasing.

I think that's a fair comment.

We are definitely a group of individuals, not helped by what seems like a wasted pre-season on the face of it. Chase just needs relegating to a normal HB role instead of the one who makes the calls. That wont happen until we get a strong organising HB. Noble's recruitment has left a bit of a stain for this season, leaving us poor in pace, hooking, and short in the halves. We're getting there. Performances are improving and I can already see a much more disciplined attack under Harris. He's tightened us up around the ruck, but until he gets better quality on the flanks he wont do much for our poor defence out wide.

Classic.

Hansen seems to be a shadow of the player he was at Wigan , there he was a small fish in a big pond, the big fish status has affected him I think. As to hock well we've won more trophies since he left so I think that answers that question, see you all Thursday

I think Hansen is still the same, just an average hard working honest player, nothing more and nothing less.

I thought Hansen was our best player yesterday! Reason we lost the game was 1. Stupid penalties 2. Cant defend outwide 3. lack of composure in possession of the ball when basics are needed at times!

HH put in a few early hits yesterday that reminded be of SBW in the Bulldogs days.

Think we need to run him wider as he does seem to go down the middle of the park more than Hock who goes after the fringe plays.

Good to see Eden, our spy in your camp is making sure you continue to lose games. Shocking in defence, but no surprise there. You can keep him.

I give Iestyn one more game then Koukash will get rid.

I thought you were desperately unlucky yesterday,Roby had a big part to play in the result ,very poor performance from him. As someone said i thought your forwards were great ,although Hock still continues to be a liability as does Rangi Chase, a little bit more structure and cool headedness (is that a real word?) and the game was yours.

I still cnt believe we went for Harris!the way the doc ploughshare his money in I thought we would go for a top class to lead,I feel we have seen little improvement,1point from hull kr widnes and Catalan and knocked out of cup is not good enough,you look at how wane and betts has is players playing for each other begs the questions,what are ours doing?!

I'd desperately like to see us look down under for an old head type scrum half for next year. Next season will also be one of transition as there is a good chance that we will start the first game with quite a few new players again and having someone to guide them round the park will definitely be needed (as it has been this season). Only looking for someone for one season to help knit everyone together until they become a team.

And you were lucky to even get that single point considering Melli wad actually in touch.

You're assuming we wouldn't have scored another point for the rest of the game had the try been disallowed.

I thought Widnes coped well with their injuries yesterday. They've played well all year and I don't begrudge them the win.

But I've just watched the Tasi incident again. Tasi has hold of the ball until Leuluai's head bangs into his. The ball only falls from his hand when he is falling to the floor dazed or unconscious. How can this be play on?

There's no stop in play. Had hanbury been tackled, the play would of been stopped for them to receive treatment, or if Tasi had completed the tackle before releasing, it would of been halted. But the referee cannot stop play halfway through a phase. Once the ball is dead, it's the refs responsibility to stop play immediately.

Wand and Betts have been at their clubs for years;not 5 minutes.
Harris has been left with the remnants of the Noble era and has the task of sorting the wheat from the chaff.
Not an easy job,but one he should be supported in doing.

We should not forget the injuries we have sustained,and no coach can implant pace into a player.
He also has to view the players in action and assess.All a slow process.
If Noble was allowed a full 12 months,and he was,then Harris should be given an equal amount of time.

If Betts was coach the referee may stop play immediately a player sustains a head injury,courtesy of a high knee(?)
as shown yesterday to the benefit of one side and one player,who wasn't wearing a red shirt.

We're only half way through the season and it does seem advantageous to go into a play-off system
with momentum and on the ascendancy.All is not lost - it is only May.

I'm not too sure about these signs of improvement people seem desperate to cling onto. Yesterday was basically a carbon copy of the Widnes away game in the league. In with a shout for pretty much all the game, but without the composure in attack or defensive structure to get the result.

When you consider Noble had to do without both Hock and Chase in the early part of the season, you could say being 8th and still in the cup was a reasonable achievement. Since then we have won 1 from 7 yet are supposedly improving?

Looking at the fixture list, we could be in a worrying position before our last 4 games. Not many are looking winnable at the moment. Hopefully we can turn over one of the big name clubs inbetween to get the season back on track.

But surely play should have been stopped. You are not allowed to stop someone by making contact with their head, accidentally or otherwise. Tasi did nothing wrong and did not drop the ball until he was rendered unconscious.
The tackler has responsibility to position himself to make a safe tackle. Leuleuai initiated the contact that led to the head clash. I would have thought a penalty would be a minimum outcome. Otherwise we have a very dangerous game.

When compared to other penalties given, it seems baffling.

As I said before, well done to Widnes on a very good win.