Anyone think front row is where he'll play next season?

I think he'll play as loose forward next season as this is something were crying out for i reckon him and Jordan Walne will interchange! Harris has already stated he wants to make him into a loose.

There were reports before he annouced he was leaving that Harris wants him to play loose forward next season. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... le-7666225

There were reports before he annouced he was leaving that Harris wants him to play loose forward next season. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... le-7666225

Great decission , he is a quality player , something we have not had for years ,the challenge is to harness that and i think great strides have been made in that in getting him to change his mind . We can all speculate whether there were any offers or not we will never know . People once again have short memories , we now have quality players lets appreciate that we cant pick and choose.

He had a spell at prop last season during the prop crisis. In fact, I think he was playing prop when that referee blatantly and deliberately took him out with a late hit. Tying him in to the middle of the field made him less effective. He's much better in the second row where he's got a bit more room. Iestyn wants to move him to loose forward, which could be a smart move because he's got good hands, although I think I'd still prefer to see him out wide.

Can't say I'm unhappy that he's staying.

Check my sig out Mart which one are you ?

Great player and I'm delighted he's staying but I think it will take silverware before he becomes any sort of a fans favorite.

Well I certainly aint wise, but you knew that anyway.

I'm happy. We need exciting players at the club where we're at, and Hock is good to watch.

Someone at the club needs to re-set the 'Gaz Hock Brain Fart Countdown Clock'...

Great decision he is a player with X factor

He's got the X factor . If he was on the show he would be seen as the nutter he is and sent home with the rest of the deluded , half baked mob. He's obviously got no interest and arrived back with his tail between his legs. The blokes a complete head case and your welcome to him.

When we thought the first teenage troll would be from CAS, we got the borough right.

Hillbilly red you are obviously pleased to be keeping the nut case and that's great. I think you will find thousands of fans at other clubs will also be pleased you are keeping him. The mans offers next to nothing and will repeat will cost your club points next season.

Offers next to nothing? Did repeat did you check his offload stats for last season? And when repeat when did he cost us points last season?

he actually won us more games when on the field , apart from maybe the Leeds game not sure we would have won any more of the last 8 after his ban.

16 games 6 tries , 51 tackle busts , 44 offloads ,
only 1 yellow card & 8 penalties.
up until his mystifying ' bump ' into the official he was almost the model professional.

I can see two thirds of opposition fans Cognitive dissonance bulging at the seems after reading that.

Bloody hell Butcher, I'm not sure you're allowed to say cognitive dissonance on here!
If we make the top 6 next year will that be a paradigm shift?

- Thinking about it would 'Eccles Star' (whatever happened to him by the way?) think that the normal 'paradigm shift' would be 2 while 10.

I think 'Eccles Star' is away on the course 'Successful rectum wiping in ten weeks' so the finer nuances of scientific thought may yet elude him.

Back on topic when his head is right Hock is one of the most destructive attacking runners in the competition.

Whilst admitting he is probably the best second rower in Super League on his day, it's his on and off field actions that let him down time and again. His agent has obviously touted him around to other clubs without success so he had no option to withdraw his transfer request if he wished to remain in RL in this country.

Not sure on this myself, on one hand one of the best and most exciting second row players in Europe, but then you get the baggage which we saw towards the end of last season.

Someone showed me Hock's post on Twitter in support of Flower and he further blotted his copy book with this.

I'd be very surprised if yet again next season he doesn't implode after a brilliant start.

There's a couple of things wrong with this post.

The first is that his on and off-field actions let him down. His stats for this season do not stand up to that argument. There's plenty of players well ahead of him on the 'on-field antics' label. As for off-field antics, apart from a couple of opinions voiced over twitter I fail to see this argument standing-up either. If you talk about the past, then yes. Now or relevant? There's nothing.

The second thing wrong is that you state 'His agent has obviously touted him around to other clubs without success so he had no option to withdraw his transfer request if he wished to remain in RL in this country.'

Everything after the word 'Obviously' is nothing but raw opinion without base in factual information. Which is fine but it doesn't make it true, so your point becomes nothing. Except to belittle his choice to stay and have a backward jab at Salford.

I don't think it's wrong to argue that Gareth comes with 'on and off field actions' (and, presumably, the poster intended this in the pejorative sense), because we've seen him collide with the ref on field, and walk out on the club (and then change his mind) off field.

The question is whether the good outweighs the bad. Given that most Salford fans seem to be pleased he's staying, then that suggests, for us at least, it does. Fans of other clubs don't see him as often as we do, probably no more than a couple of times a year and when he crops up in the media having done a bit of the bad. It doesn't really leave them in a position to make that judgement, but, in true RL fashion, they don't let that stop them. Hence you'll see the predictable "your ([isic[/i) welcome to him" guff on here, and the "he's a past it penalty machine" from the ill-informed elsewhere.

Yeah, I can't disagree with that.