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| I think Paul Highton is ready to step up to the mark tbh. He progressed from water carrier to Assistant Coach so fast that its hard to overlook the lad clearly has talent.
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| Quote ="Walshovski"Millward being appointed is practically the same as McRae. He's a former SL coach who has been around forever, he's a mate of Simms and he talks a better game than he often delivers. Plus he has been sacked from both Wigan and Saints and his conduct is questionable, allegedly. I quite like him and I think he is knowledgeable but his time has passed let's go for someone else.'"
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| Quote ="cliftoncityred"I think Paul Highton is ready to step up to the mark tbh. He progressed from water carrier to Assistant Coach so fast that its hard to overlook the lad clearly has talent.'"
I have the utmost respect for Highto and everything he has done for this club but come on let's get a grip of ourselves.
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| Quote ="tall red"money mate! we cant pay mcrea off, but we could malc, simms wants him in now, good mates and all><
agree we need a coach, not from within the club, but not milward, a deffo no'"
So we pay off Alker, and then have Mcrae and Millward in charge?
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| Scully's autobiography had some good insights on Millward.
IMO he's a charismatic coach who likes the media stuff, and worked well with Saints where he had loads of world class players and gave them the freedom to play without tinkering too much. I don't think he is a tactical genius by any means - look how Wigan floundered when he was in charge, they were very very poor.
Downsides with Millward are he is a bully, he's chummy with the high profile players but bullies younger players and isn't very respectful to people outside the dressing room, those run-ins with him ranting at Warrington and Saints press officers, you would not get a coach like Tony Smith or Shaun McRae doing that. In Scully's book he said that by the time Millward left he had the support of about half the dressing room and the rest were not sorry to see him go. I also remember hearing a few things from an ex Wigan player that he was two faced and generally not liked by the players when he was there.
Yes he had good times at Saints but he's not going to recreate that at Salford, I can only see him being a disaster at Salford.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Scully's autobiography had some good insights on Millward.
IMO he's a charismatic coach who likes the media stuff, and worked well with Saints where he had loads of world class players and gave them the freedom to play without tinkering too much. I don't think he is a tactical genius by any means - look how Wigan floundered when he was in charge, they were very very poor.
Downsides with Millward are he is a bully, he's chummy with the high profile players but bullies younger players and isn't very respectful to people outside the dressing room, those run-ins with him ranting at Warrington and Saints press officers, you would not get a coach like Tony Smith or Shaun McRae doing that. In Scully's book he said that by the time Millward left he had the support of about half the dressing room and the rest were not sorry to see him go. I also remember hearing a few things from an ex Wigan player that he was two faced and generally not liked by the players when he was there.
Yes he had good times at Saints but he's not going to recreate that at Salford, I can only see him being a disaster at Salford.'"
and john wilkinson also quoted that the best coach we have had at salford was andy gregorey, but we aint gonna get him back aswell, well put sally,
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| Millward would be a massive backward step for us. Coaching a successful team in NL1 should not be our criteria for our next Coach. We need new blood with new ideas.
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| Your so wrong, can guarntee you ian millward will not be the next salford boss>
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| Quote ="choc"Your so wrong, can guarntee you ian millward will not be the next salford boss>'"
i know, i never said milward will be the next coach, but i know who sims wants?
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| Quote ="tall red"i know, i never said milward will be the next coach, but i know who sims wants?'"
please state choc, or chuck where it is stated that he would be?
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| no you just think you know, the chairman will decide the next boss not steve simms.
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| Quote ="choc"no you just think you know, the chairman will decide the next boss not steve simms.'"
you lost me now pal! never said simms will decide the next coach, but who he would like, please dont make yourself look stupid on a public forum, with i know
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| Daniel Anderson's free. You could try for him. He's another ex-Saints coach who brought home loads of silverware.
At least we aren't suggesting you take Potter on. We're only recommending our successful coaches to you!
On the subject of Millward. I wouldn't take everything Scully says in his book as gospel. Millward has been gone from Saints for a long time. For example, while Saints' attack was incredible under Millward, our defence was always dire. However, if you watch Leigh now not only can they attack very well but they can also defend very well, which suggests Millward might have adapted his philosophy since his Saints days. I'm sure Millward has changed in other respects also.
He still writes a good column though, just as he did in his Saints days.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Daniel Anderson's free. You could try for him. He's another ex-Saints coach who brought home loads of silverware.
At least we aren't suggesting you take Potter on. We're only recommending our successful coaches to you!
On the subject of Millward. I wouldn't take everything Scully says in his book as gospel. Millward has been gone from Saints for a long time. For example, while Saints' attack was incredible under Millward, our defence was always dire. However, if you watch Leigh now not only can they attack very well but they can also defend very well, which suggests Millward might have adapted his philosophy since his Saints days. I'm sure Millward has changed in other respects also.
He still writes a good column though, just as he did in his Saints days.'"
Anderson would be a million miles better than Millward. He would do for Salford similar to what Nathan Brown has done for Hudds, they'd be up mixing it with the top teams. Remember when he took over NZ Warriors they were a basketcase and he got them to Grand Finalists within 2 years.
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| Can see Crusaders going bust next season why not try a punt on Harris...young hungery british coach.
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| Your quote.... simms only wants mal out so he can bring milward in.
A how do you know simms wants mal out?
b how do you know he wants milward in (i can only assume you have had a chat with him)?
c dont believe all you hear.
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| Quote ="choc"Your quote.... simms only wants mal out so he can bring milward in.
A how do you know simms wants mal out?
b how do you know he wants milward in (i can only assume you have had a chat with him)?
c dont believe all you hear.'"
no dont son, ?
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| Quote ="tall red"please dont make yourself look stupid on a public forum'"
Stevie Wonder would be able to see the irony in that statement?!
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| Quote ="Walshovski"Millward being appointed is practically the same as McRae. He's a former SL coach who has been around forever, he's a mate of Simms and he talks a better game than he often delivers. Plus he has been sacked from both Wigan and Saints and his conduct is questionable, allegedly. I quite like him and I think he is knowledgeable but his time has passed let's go for someone else.'"
Granted, there are better coaches but he's a realistic target.
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| Surprised at negative reaction to Millward I must admit. Entertaining and successful rugby is the opening line to his CV.
Great coach who only really failed to deliver at Wigan with a team he didn't build. Stunning job at Leigh. Relegation fodder too unbeaten 10 game start (played all top sides) in 2 seasons not bad at all especially when look at the squad.
In-between he went down under as assistant and look at the difference if both NQLD & Canberra when he left Cowboys to join Raides one rapidly down the other rapidly up. More than just a coincidence!
As mentioned too, who else? Yes you have the new ground coming but didn't council lens club cash to keep going? Won't be easy to bring people like Anderson over unless big wage and big budget to spend whereas Millward knows how to build a side.
If I was Salford I'd get him in asap... Please
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| That reminds me, Denis Betts will be available shortly.
Would you recommend him??
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"That reminds me, Denis Betts will be available shortly.
Would you recommend him??'"
Haha, that has just reminded me RE Denis betts, i was at a fight night a few months ago, and i asked him would he like to come to salford as a coach, if mcrea left and he just giggled at the thought, then he said mcrea aint doin a bad job his he
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| If I owned Salford I would clear the lot out and start a fresh with a new man with his own backroom team. After what Simms did to us he would be the first through the door and I'm sorry for Alan and Phil but it would have to be a clean sweep. That is the only way your club could get the confidence of the fans back. No scapegoats. No I told you so's.
If I was Ian Millward that would be my first stipulation. I hope you don't get Ian as he has a lot of work still to do at Leigh and we love him.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"If I owned Salford I would clear the lot out and start a fresh with a new man with his own backroom team. After what Simms did to us he would be the first through the door and I'm sorry for Alan and Phil but it would have to be a clean sweep. That is the only way your club could get the confidence of the fans back. No scapegoats. No I told you so's.
If I was Ian Millward that would be my first stipulation. I hope you don't get Ian as he has a lot of work still to do at Leigh and we love him.'"
Whilst I understand, and to a great extent agree with, what you're saying I don't think Hunte should (or needs to) go anywhere.
Too early to make a call on Veivers tbh.
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| I know I met Alan on holiday with KH in Florida and have heard nothing but good things about him but a new pride leader will always have to be looking over his shoulder. I would also clear out Alker and anyone siding with him. A club like Salford do not deserve this and neither does the man funding it.
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