What happened to the SJ part of Eccles?

Cavendish - the point HBR is making is that is you are approached by one of the "big clubs" then you are most likely to be swayed by that rather than your home town club who have been struggling for years.

But that's the history - the future is bright, the future is RED!!

I'll tell you why this lad wasn't scouted, its due to the sheer folly bias in the Salford academy ranks with lee spencer (jack spencer's dad) one of the main academy coaches put pete carey and Sam Rainford there (all folly coaches) even though our current national confrence team is EsJ they don't get a sniff? Saying that Salford have never been interested in Eccles A.R.L.F.C actually apart from ian watson i can't think of one salford player coming from the eccles club? Disgrace really when you think eccles produce easily the best open age team in salford, well what's salfords loss is wigans gain, i know payden well my youngest brother went to school with him, and if you asked him face to face would he like to play for the reds he'd snap your hands off! But if Alan Hunte isn't going to bother setting foot at this lads amature club then i say good luck at Wigan payden they'll look after you their.

Or the fact that in the past few years there hasn't been an age group at Eccles/Langworthy at 16's level that has had a player good enough?

What like payden? I'll tell you the reason eccles don't have good youth its due to the lack of help from Salford, The reds should be advertising in the papers for players to go down and play for Eccles and help with abit of funding like they do with folly, what actually happens with the kids at eccles is they get that fed up with the lack of interest they go across te rd to the dark side (Eccles RU) and play there where they are well looked after and this is where payden went to play before rejoining Eccles a.r.l.f.c open age, nearly all the Rugby union players go back to the league team in the end, this is why they continue being the best open age side in salford.

=#0000FFI think the Valentine cup decides that? In which Eccles were beat in the semis by a Folly side consisting of 2nd teamers and under 18's.

Anyway, like i said previously when Candland was the age at which foundation teams etc are picked he simply wasn't good enough. He is now though which is obviously why he's at Wigan and i'm pretty sure they spotted him playing representative games rather than playing for Eccles.

The Valentine cup? Eccles never put a full strength side out in that tournament anymore the rather concentrate on the national conference league instead.

You don't just suddenly become good its always there its just that you need to spot that talent and that’s what Salford have never done with young lads from the area,

I personally remember when Callum Watkins was palmed away from the folly lane club the reason being (he just doesn't have it) he then went onto play for latchford where he was given a chance and as they say the rest is history!
Salford have never had a good reputation for good scouting we've had players like Harrison Hansen and Adrian Morley slip from the net and when we have a small pool of talent like Salford (due to soccer domination) we can't afford to turn a blind eye anymore.

some good talent in the folly 18s team this year

Put them against lads from the wigan saints warrington academy's and you'll realise their not that good? The game needs sorting at grass roots level in Salford with unbiased views most importantly.

Thats absolute boll=#000000ocks and proves that you have no idea what you're talking about.

It isn't absolute bollox... i was very good friends with cashley his brother and callum's dad also who told me about the situation and shortly after he was booted off the salford scholership also, i could even name the coach who stated she didn't see anything in him (i was there when the words came out of her mouth), i won't say who she is but she is one of the few female coaches at folly,

So shows how much you know happy red!

I was in the same team.

Your coach is my relation! Now i don't care what you say Callum and Gill had their differences and thats why he left folly, you might of been told differently but thats the truth ok.

Understood Swinton and Eccles worked together,when Eccles play up here in the conference there is always former and current players from Swinton with them.Plus Adrian Morley tavels with them when he can with his young son.

With the move to Barton , Eccles ARLFC will be on the New Stadium's doorstep closely followed by Irlam Hornets and Cadishead Rhino's , we cannot afford to lose any future prospect whatever the reason.

'ecmmcles produce the best open age team' From where I'm sat, no they don't, not any more. The current team consists of a number of players from other local clubs. The good youth setup has in my opinion has long since disappeared.All th good work in my opinion is being done at Irlam and Cadishead in that part of the world. Folly u18 are a good team, well coached and acredit to our area,they are well worth going to watch.By the way I am not associated with Folly.

sorry about the preious post, should be eccles.

Who's that then?




He isn't a local lad.

What like yours?

You my friend are talking out of your ar*e, having started off at Eccles and moving over to Folly I can easily say Folly are the better run club hence why they are able to run a full youth section, two open age sides and are able to organise trips abroad (Perpignan and Prague amongst others). Eccles have always concentrated on their conference side and never really bothered about the youth side of things a prime example of this happened when I played there, my dad got all new water bottles, sponges, medical equipment etc for my age U9's at the time and we never even seen it, it was all given straight to the Open age.

I'm not for minute having a go at Eccles, but just pointing out that they're not the force they once were in Salford and Folly Lane are the strongest club in the area.

i personally feel eccles have struggled to cope with the loss of john mcatee, he seemed to be the engine of eccles as he has to be one of the best scrum halves i have seen in the ametuer game.
Folly have suprised me they have a youthfull team with a few older heads but have adapted well and been impressed with what i have seem from them.
Langworthy started well this year but have dropped again but i believe there youth policy is very strong.
Irlam are doing well and should gain promotion again this year but the season aint over yet.
Cadishead are a yo-yo team they can play some brilliant rugby but win some hard matches and get beat by easy teams but are working very hard with the youth policy.

Correct , he was signed from Westhoughton . . so pretty close . closer than Weldon Road

Much closer to Wigan and Leigh though ... still not 'a local lad that we missed out on' as some were suggesting.

And besides, he's one that Alan Hunte DID spot the talent in.

Think Nathan Mc Avoy played at Eccles then Salford before the bulls payed a massive transfer fee for him,according to the bulls old programmes.

He was and he was a good prospect who made a significant contribution at the club but how many years ago was that? Highlights the problem that we have at grassroots level. We produce a handful of players every decade and most of them go to other clubs.

As other posters have said, a lot of good work is being done in Irlam & Cadishead at present. Go down to Lords St any Sunday morning and you will see junior rugby of all ages. Many of the lads are relatively inexperienced at playing the games and often end up on the wrong end of the scoreline but if the level of committment and dedication can be maintained (easier said than done) the results will come.

Folly are the best run CLUB and Eccles have the best TEAM.

I have to say i dont think folly are the best run team, i think eccles are but i think eccles are getting caught up by many others now playing wise, they had the best team around a few years ago but like irlam as soon as age caught up with them they have started to slow down again, years ago i remember everyone wanted to play for eccles that was it but its not like that at all anymore, i dont think their coaching staff are very good after losing murray and the team have slacked off.
But no doubt they will get back up there.