It's probably another guest article from Loyal Fan.

I see the club apologists have their knives out for NB.
Original Salford City Reds states Barker should be hauled before
his editor for rehashing the same story.

Well then Mr Salford should be reprimanded before the Salford
public for continually serving and re- hashing the same crap year
in year out, I'm sure you'll agree.

Barker hit the nail on the head " sport is about winning not sentiment".

I agree maybe he has no news but at least he is putting us in the news to stimulate some debate. Do we sit around still defending the indefensible.

I think the article should headline Make your mind up before you loose the only asset left! The fans?



We might not like him, but really do we sit here again until Christmas & have the same debate as last Christmas.

Sorry but anyone who owns a company can do as he sees fit, that in JW's case has seen him continually prop it up with his own money with no chance of a return on his investment. And then be perfectly willing to take a final loss by releasing the club to new ownership.

Barker on the other hand is employed by a newspaper (I use the term very losely) to offer factual articles, this should not allow him to freely rehash the rants of not rights on a public message board. Baker last week presented an article that suggested that Tuesday was meant to be D Day at Salford but this was never the case, yet he then posts an incredibly poorly written article decrying the club because this didn't happen.

Perhaps if he didn't feed fans expectations with inaccurate reports then there might be more progress as let's not forget that the club asked for the conjecture and hear say to stop to allow them to work on the takeover/investment.

No such thing as a Club apologist. The people labelled as such are people who sit back and take a less emotional look at things. As for Barker, you'll find that he has had regular bad-press (If you pardon the pun) for many years as his work has been consistently poor and lazy. He's been so lazy on this particular article that I think he has either copy and pasted Mitie Mouse's ramblings from on here or got Dantes Inferno to write the article while he sits in a dark room and grows a beard.

The piece is so distant from Barker's normally cohesive writing, full of emotional rants like he is a long suffering fan, and liberally sprinkled with opinion that I have trouble believing he actually wrote it. MEN should employ Cavendish street, at least her emotion and quality of writing is meant with Salford's best interest at heart...

Barker has been thieving a living for years...

Hilarious.

Please explain how someone like yourself who claims to be an expert in identifying unprofessionalism can't see wrong in a man that consistently reports announcement dates that never happen?. And don't get me started on his past Puke Patten articles in the MEN.

I am no apologist for the club although I do give people who have kept the club going for many years some credit for their effort and money.

With regards Neil Barker I said that his editor should be took in front of the MENs owners to explain how such poorly written articles have been allowed to be printed for so long, I thought that newspaper correspondents were supposed to report on the news not make it up.

Did we sell or were we to sell Dean Holdsworth to HULL FC or not(according to the MEN)?,and if NB owned a food outlet and rehashed hid food as he does his articles he would be prosecuted and or sacked.

I stopped buying the MEN ages ago.
The sports pages used to be OK but now they are just slanging matches between United and City.
Every now again you will actually find an actual sports story inbetween the drivel.

The fact that we have heard nothing from the club is very dissapointing but not surprising.
We are in $hit street as we all know.
I am waiting for official confirmation of any changes and ignoring rumours and conjecture on here and especially from the MEN.

Cheers.

Someone important may have been at an important [url=http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/halifax-rlfc/promotion-is-coming-back-reckons-steele-1-5108577MEETING[/url

So one person at one meeting stops all negotiations, stops the rest of the club from working and stops them from being able to update supporters?

Firstly i'm neither for or against Neil Barker. He's definately not a friend of mine either. I just agree whole heartedly with his recent article which has lots of home truth's. There has been occasions where a few journalistic errors have evidently been rightly pointed out by you (Monty Python) , and you've constantly blasted Barker on here and on the MEN comments board continually,only proving you're a wilko apologist and any bad press against him nurkes you to the bone.

Wilkinson's made massive blunders at this club more damaging than NB can ever do, and you sit behind a keyboard foaming at the mouth in his defence. You're either OBSESSED or a family member , either or proves your a club apologist beach boy....



We've achieved the nickname "LAUGHING STOCK" through one person and it's not Neil Barker.

Do you not think your argument applies to yourself too, only in reverse?

What's an apologist beach boy? I may have missed the post where you explained what the hell you're on about.

Reading that article, one must argue it would delay any decision on future sponsors and future club ownership.
The meeting, the article alleges, could lead to relegation from and promotion to a 12 team (not 14 team as at present) League. Surely we would not only need someone like Wilky at this meeting but also it would cause some reassessment by any financial input until the future became clearer.
Imagine going to buy a car, then was told that it was not sure whether the engine would be 1100 cc or 1600 cc AND also whether the repayments would be over 12 months or 24 months at the same level.

Another ???

That would suggest that I have done some previously. I must be writing them in my sleep.

That would be a neat trick, especially if you were also getting paid for them

Wrong again, as I am not related to anyone at the club and I am as far away from being a beach boy as you are, hopefully.Who were the beach boys anyway?

I have over a good number of years supported the club,long before the present chairman came along so I suppose that you could call that an obsession but over all those years I have understood the difficulties that the people running club have come up against and have tried to keep a balanced view on how things have gone from time to time and if the fact that I will continue to do so keeps on irritating you so be it.

What really narks me about the press especially the ones who continually make errors and bad calls is the fact that they never apologize,never pay to see a game,never turn down the refreshments and use comments from forums such as this one to break a story.

Were you ever employed by the club in any way,shape or form ? Just interested.

I noticed you have ignored, again, the first part of my post.

So anyone who does not agree with your current view of all things Salford is blinkered, ignorant, not in touch with reality, and basically living in a fantasy world?

It's quite a claim to continually tell people that your way is the only possible way things can be seen. To continually heap derision on those that see things different without thoughtful and respectful discourse amounts to making you into the very thing that you claim everyone else is.

I think that the photo could be one from your Family album.

Tiz a foto of the beach boys....

Sorry Tony for not answering back within your time limit, Gee Whizz i feel for your missus.

No far from obsessed in reverse as you claim. Rather fed up with club apologist's with their daily tirades against a jounalist rather than looking at the bigger picture and aiming them towards an inept board.


Again no far from it, we all have opinions thats what forums are for but you must agree Tony we're an embarassment in the way clubs are run these days, and it's about time sentiment is overlooked. Barker was spot on with this article we're masters of the self destruction we never get anything right, and then you get Monty Python (original salford city red ) firing tirades at Barker, and then the club apologists (you included) turn on me for agreeing with Barker, the obsession lies with Monty's fetish's with NB not me



You're well and truelly a beach boy head and shoulders deep.


No never been employed by the club have very close connections though

Thanks for that Gladys.

I'm no apologist. I sit back and try to take an unemotional look at things. Sometimes the Club do good, sometimes not. I've slagged the Club off plenty when I've encountered things that they need slagging-off for. It would be very easy for me to just sit here and label people for a particular view. Ironically I don't disagree with what you say just the condescending way you feel the need to label others who disagree with you. As you point out, Forums are for debate so why don't you just stick to that?

For what it's worth, your arguments are weakened by emotion and the need to defend yourself by just being a knobber.

Plus spouting the same old tripe in every forum post is tiring.

Thanks, Gladys, for the quick reply.

Speaking of Gladys's we used to call an ex player of Salford Gladys
due to his handbag tackling technique. He went by the name of
Tony Howard

What a top journo my mate nidge is,right to the point.Keep up the good work fella,ignore the beach boys mate,and as for monty python just tell him that Wilky is not the Messiah,he`s just a very very naughty boy.