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| Quote ="Michigan red"As I think many know the actions of the more moronic Cas fans who seem to inundate this forum have created a great dislike in the Castleford team in my eyes.
I have just for the first time in my life seen Twitter and reading some of the posts on the Docs account by Castleford fans shocked me, I honestly didn't expect their too be so much vitriolic bile spewed. It makes me hope more than anything that the Doc takes a very hard line stance with Sneyd and categorically says no to him signing for Castleford.
I struggle too see where a great deal of this hatred for the Doc comes from, I would have thought a sport so perpetually close to the precipice as ours would have welcomed someone so readily willing to heavily invest into said sport with open arms.
I guess some Turkeys are happy to be bloody minded and vote for Christmas.'"
Ive seen the dr twitter the other day and i was surprised by the amount of hatred he gets from castleford fans. Most of them have ago at him for our attendance which i find funny as when milward was in charge at the start of last season their attendance drop to 3 thousand now there coming out since their winning games. Yes the Dr goes overboard on twitter but its great to see what our chairman is up to. Wilky kept himself to himself and it annoyed alot of fans. Other fans know how salford fans felt now when teams were taking our best player. alot of people are having ago at him for not letting our youngsters start this season yet the walne brothers are playing week in - week out, theo getting games under his belt and Evalds starting now in games. Castleford would love to have the Dr on board so to me its just Jelousy
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| We are doing okay without the Dr so I don't think it is jealous, frustration and maybe a bit of worry, but not jealousy.
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| Quote ="faddy860"Ive seen the dr twitter the other day and i was surprised by the amount of hatred he gets from castleford fans. Most of them have ago at him for our attendance which i find funny as when milward was in charge at the start of last season their attendance drop to 3 thousand now there coming out since their winning games. Yes the Dr goes overboard on twitter but its great to see what our chairman is up to. Wilky kept himself to himself and it annoyed alot of fans. Other fans know how salford fans felt now when teams were taking our best player. alot of people are having ago at him for not letting our youngsters start this season yet the walne brothers are playing week in - week out, theo getting games under his belt and Evalds starting now in games. Castleford would love to have the Dr on board so to me its just Jelousy'"
I agree with a lot of what you say mate but the 3 thousand attendance was a one off just before Millward was sacked. Please don't be offended as i like to hear the views of other fans but if a Cas fan had used such bad grammar the self professed enforcer of this board would have resorted to his usual insults with several references to bodily functions. Once again mate no offence to you.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"I agree with a lot of what you say mate but the 3 thousand attendance was a one off just before Millward was sacked. Please don't be offended as i like to hear the views of other fans but if a Cas fan had used such bad grammar the self professed enforcer of this board would have resorted to his usual insults with several references to bodily functions. Once again mate no offence to you.'"
hay ive got nothing against Castleford so its all good to me. Its just annoying to see our chairman being talk to like that on twitter. We have shown that the we can get up to 7 thousand to a game so if we start winning games our crowds will increase then it will shut up other fans as well. I do think though if castleford want sneyd that much then you will have to pay probably as much as we did for chase. He's not the man of steel like chase was but hes young and hes proven to be a big player at castleford and im sure teams like saints hull will be after him and they will pay big for him as well
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| Last season our then coach thought was a good plan to send Sneyd to Cas on a season long loan with no return clause. By April this season it became clear that it was a mistake, The owner made it clear that if there was a way to bring Marc back he would have, but there was an agreement signed and that was that.
May last year Marc and his agent agreed an extension to his contract until 2016. At the time it looked a good plan but now feted playing the best rugby of his career with his loan club his agent realise it was a mistake .He can get a much better deal for his client and maybe at a club that hasn't already two international halfs and exiles half back with a decade of SL in its 2015 roster.
?..but theres been an agreement signed and that is that.
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| Mostly agree Faddy and Middleman, i don't think any one is wanting Marc for free and they shouldn't expect to. Although still under contract Chase for whatever reason wanted away and Salford paid up and i think the reason you got him so cheap (relatively) was the loan deal for Marc. Things seem to have changed a little since i first posted that 2 Cas players had told me that Marc wanted to stay at Cas and now other clubs are rumoured to want him. The ideal outcome would be for the player to be at the club he wants to be at (whichever that may be) and Salford get a fair price for him. That last condition will be the hard part as neither the buying club or Salford will be happy. If he leaves i just hope its with a Wembley appearance on his CV and i know the superb Cas fans will carry on cheering him until the last minute of the last game.
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| If Tigers reach Wembley he will sign for us and Salford will get a fee.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"If Tigers reach Wembley he will sign for us and Salford will get a fee.'"
You may find the Doc sells him to anyone but Cas. Not sure he has been that impressed with the club.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"If Tigers reach Wembley he will sign for us and Salford will get a fee.'"
I don't think Salford will be interested in the money. Marc's value is that he could be used as a lever to prise a decent prop or hooker (two positions we're a bit short in for next season) away from another club (provided Marc can agree terms, obviously). If it's true you've sold Clark and Huby, then I suspect you're well down the pecking order. Current favourites are Huddersfield, I reckon. Straight swap for Shaun Lunt.
And I suspect Red Willow is right. Some of your fans don't help your case.
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| Quote ="Red John" Current favourites are Huddersfield, I reckon. Straight swap for Shaun Lunt.
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It seems half back Jamie Ellis has joined Huddersfield from Castleford.
Some rumours suggest Robinson is Featherstone bound from the Giants.
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| He will probably end up at Cas, providing they stump up the cash. Interesting if they are depending on a cup final appearance to be able to put in a bid for him though.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"He will probably end up at Cas, providing they stump up the cash. Interesting if they are depending on a cup final appearance to be able to put in a bid for him though.'"
I'd really hate too think that he will end up there.
If he has ambition to better himself as has been suggested going to Cas is a sideways move at best, he has the talent too be playing for a top side and he has the quality too be a high quality player, he doesn't have the back bone too be one but that's another matter.
I personally hope the Doc refuses too let him go unless it's a player swap, he is hardly needing the cash that rugby league players sell for.
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| Another possibilty would be for the Salford club to put him out on loan again for his final year and not neccessarily with Tigers.
I must admit that relationships have probably strained to the point of no return between Tigers and Salford. I can see both clubs not wanting to deal with each other in the future.
Happy times eh.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"I'd really hate too think that he will end up there.
If he has ambition to better himself as has been suggested going to Cas is a sideways move at best, he has the talent too be playing for a top side and he has the quality too be a high quality player, he doesn't have the back bone too be one but that's another matter.
I personally hope the Doc refuses too let him go unless it's a player swap, he is hardly needing the cash that rugby league players sell for.'"
I bet Sneyd would be more use in a rough house than you. By the way do you actually go to the games only I don't think you no what you are talking about. I hope Sneyd does what is best for himself, we did what was best for us when we let him go, personally if we cannot win the cup then I hope Castleford do, and Sneyd gets a winners medal.
You don't like Swinton you don't like Castleford I bet really you don't like yourself.
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| Quote ="red eyes"I bet Sneyd would be more use in a rough house than you. By the way do you actually go to the games only I don't think you no what you are talking about. I hope Sneyd does what is best for himself, we did what was best for us when we let him go, personally if we cannot win the cup then I hope Castleford do, and Sneyd gets a winners medal.
You don't like Swinton you don't like Castleford I bet really you don't like yourself.'"
Personally I hope Salford do what is best for Salford.
Couldn't care less what Sneyd thinks.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"
I must admit that relationships have probably strained to the point of no return between Tigers and Salford. I can see both clubs not wanting to deal with each other in the future.
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'Course they have.That's why the Salford club readily agreed to the request to the game being brought forward to Saturday night without stopping to think.It's because the 2 clubs don't get on.
Mind,Powell and Harris really don't like each other.
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| I was about to post the same, while our fans will have given us a bad reputation in the eyes of Koukash, should negotiations need to happen between the clubs they still will, as proven at our request to move the fixture.
If we want Sneyd, We're going to have to pay for him, and I'm sure deals will be done between clubs in the future.
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| Over on TotalRL, the rumour mill has spat out the little nugget that Cas have signed Luke Gale. If this is true, then they're maybe assuming they won't get Marc Sneyd (unless they're going to go for the famous Salford 'four half-backs' set up).
I still think he'll go to whichever club can offer up a prop or a hooker in exchange.
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| Jamie Ellis is OOC and said to be on his way so Gale could be seen as a replacement for him.
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| Quote ="northmanchesterdevil"Personally I hope Salford do what is best for Salford.
Couldn't care less what Sneyd thinks.'"
Do you really believe that what is best for Salford is to keep a player who wants to be somewhere else? Particularly if that player is first choice where he currently plays, but is unlikely to be if he returns to Salford? Dream on!
A player retained against his wishes is an unhappy player and unhappy players don't perform. So who wins? Nobody! The club's interests and the player's interests are not separate.
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| Not just that, a bad attitude is contagious, if a player is unhappy. It brings the rest down. It's eventually why our hand was forced into letting Chase go, and why we can't buy the deal back for Daz Clark. As he wants to go to Wire
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"Not just that, a bad attitude is contagious, if a player is unhappy. It brings the rest down. It's eventually why our hand was forced into letting Chase go, and why we can't buy the deal back for Daz Clark. As he wants to go to Wire'"
We don't really know that he [iis[/i unhappy. That didn't appear to be the message Marwan and Martin Vickers got when they met him.
I still don't think we'll see him in a Salford shirt again, but I'm not convinced cas is where he'll end up, particularly if you have signed Luke Gale. Someone earlier said he'd be a replacement for Jamie Ellis, but I can't see it. Ellis seems to be second choice behind Sneyd and Finn, and I can't see you signing Luke Gale just to sit him on the bench. That's why I think he's more a replacement for Marc Sneyd.
We'll see, eventually.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Anyone want to hazard a guess at the reception Sneyd will get next week?'"
I don't think it will be anything like the reception Rangi will get.
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| Quote ="Red John"We don't really know that he [iis[/i unhappy. That didn't appear to be the message Marwan and Martin Vickers got when they met him.
I still don't think we'll see him in a Salford shirt again, but I'm not convinced cas is where he'll end up, particularly if you have signed Luke Gale. Someone earlier said he'd be a replacement for Jamie Ellis, but I can't see it. Ellis seems to be second choice behind Sneyd and Finn, and I can't see you signing Luke Gale just to sit him on the bench. That's why I think he's more a replacement for Marc Sneyd.
We'll see, eventually.'"
Finn will be cover next season.
Gale will start with Sneyd, providing we can sort the deal out.
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| Quote ="Nankivell"Do you really believe that what is best for Salford is to keep a player who wants to be somewhere else? Particularly if that player is first choice where he currently plays, but is unlikely to be if he returns to Salford? Dream on!
A player retained against his wishes is an unhappy player and unhappy players don't perform. So who wins? Nobody! The club's interests and the player's interests are not separate.'"
Did I say retain him?
Salford need to do what is best for Salford. If that is sell him, fine, if that is retain him and get him to sign a new contract, fine, if that is keep him at the club and let him rot in the reserves, fine. But the ONLY consideration the club should have is to do what is best for Salford.
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