So just being a supporter of a club means that you know absolutely bloody everything?

Whilst I don't feel things should be as positive as EB is attempting to make out, to suggest we're flush with cash or at/near the full cap is completely insane.

Bit harsh.

the grape juice must be strong in Yorkshire, Salford's wage bill is less than a million, Wild got offered a longer term contract from Salford on similar money to Shuddersfield but over a longer period means in total that is more money, now do you understand. Feka, nobody wanted him so not as dear as you think, Patten again offered a longer contract than Shuddersfield had, Holdsworth you could well be right, but he would be the ony one.

Early Bath's on a bigger contract than Wilde.

Agreed.

For the last year at The Willows Salford announced that we were significantly increasing the wage bill in an attempt to end The Willows era on a high. We are still paying these contracts now as most were 2 or 3 year deals. Whilst it is unlikely that we are close to the cap, I think it is fair to say we are currently at our highest wage bill in the superleague era.

I am sure that first sentence makes sense inside your head.

you are near the full cap and that maybe why you are not flush with cash. Contracts have to be committed to years in advance so if the income line does not improve you are stuffed. You get situations like the smith sale and holdsworth being touted around the place.

You are clueless. under a million

In a club having to pay overs to get some quality in. Your prosaic Wild formula is touching, very vague. Are you claiming what the Giants paid wild in a week he is now getting over 3 years? Without timescales your formula is meaningless. hope you understand.

If it suits you to pretend that patten and holdsworth are not on 100k+ and that there are not several players on 60 to 80 K then that is fine. And feka costs you plenty. The real stupidity was signing so many guys on overs for 3 years.

fair comment.

of the ' Wild ' Speculation over the actual players wage budget at Salford have this is probably nearest the mark .

there seems to be a crop of South Yorkshiremen with apparantly a clear understanding of Salford's salary cap & wage structure, if that is the case could they please inform Phil Veivers as it'll be news to him ...

That's a good clarion call for the extra 4,000 fans wanted for next season,we could finish in the bottom four again
and we have over achieved as for the under twenties If we get four to the first team we will have done very well,then when they get a good agent,who says you are going nowhere here then they will be off.

If Phil Vievers says we have over achieved, I will take note,

Why would a club risk big wages when they were unsure we would get the support. That is club suicide. But saying that are club don't have a clue half the time. Surly you make sure you can sell the product before you jump in to big contracts. From the talk on here we will be losing fans not gaining them. So does this mean most of team is leaving. I hate having go at are club been season ticket holder for years but the club don't seem to care about us any more . They have not got a clue and I am sorry but fed up of it all I work hard and at moment this is the only thing I have lost interest with. So sorry if people don't liking hearing it. I need every penny can't afford to waste money on a club that don't tell supporters the truth also it is run appalling. So why should I buy season ticket which is just going to pay debt and see no improvement in the team.

Eccles Star tell me one professional sports club who tells its fans thr "truth" they all tell you what they want you to hear, from Manchester United down.

True. But matt Parrish told them and they don't like it no wonder know one wants the big job. To get investors you need to show decent running of a club so we have no chance be causing this club is ran appallingly. Why would anyone be interested. Would not blame veivers if he and Shaun long quit. Even matt Parrish was lied to when he got job. So be interesting what they say to investors

I'll break it down into real simple talk, then.

Your statement implied that, because you are a Huddersfield fan, you know what contract Wild got from Salford. I'm pointing out that just supporting one particular team does not mean you know the ins and outs of player contracts.

Does chairman want investment,or want out.If it is investment surely the new investor or investors would want
a big say in all aspects of the running of the club, would the chairman want that,or does he want
investment and the present incumbents carry on running the show,if so that could be the problem.

So when you wrote:


So just being a supporter of a club knows that you mean absolutely bloody everything?

you were trying to say:
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because you are a Huddersfield fan, you know what contract Wild got from Salford. I'm pointing out that just supporting one particular team does not mean you know the ins and outs of player contracts[/u

If you cannot see your first attempt was completely lame you do have a problem.



Anyway, whatever what was implied....Wildy got a bumper contract.

I got two words the wrong way around whilst typing quickly. Hang me.

Now that you've got the gist of what I was saying, can you enlighten me as to how, as a Huddersfield fan, you know what contract Wild got?

If YOU got your words confused so that your sentence made no sense then it might be better to refrain from saying:

[uI'll break it down into real simple talk, then.[/u

Your condescending approach is pathetic when it is your inability to communicate, not my ability to comprehend, that was at fault.

As for your question. As a Huddersfield fan I attended the end of season dinner ( end of season but we had play off games to play). As a Huddersfield fan I had spoken to SW several times. As a Huddersfield fan I asked him about his deal with Salford. SW could not believe he was going to get so much and for 3 years. HTH

Well I'm sorry for not realising I'd made a fairly simple typo. I'm also sorry you couldn't work out what I'd actually meant. And final apologies, but it seemed I was right to label you a bellend, regardless of my own f*ck up.



Now if only you'd explained that in the first place. I'm still not convinced it means we're spending shedloads of cash and are anywhere near the cap, but you now have a bit more credibility. Thanks.

I am sorry you cannot make yourself understood. Your response to your error was graceless.

Whether you are convinced or afford me any credibility is irrelevant. Salford have substantially increased player expenditure in 20011/12 this has not been matched by on field performance or revenues. This is why smith has gone, Holdworth is being touted around and the 'replacement' for Patten will not be on a similar salary. I do not agree with Salford supporters re salaries in 2011/12. However I do agree that in 2013 / 14 the salary spend will be substantially lower than most SL clubs.

I see you made up a season we're 18,000 years away from to support your argument so I would suspect that we will be spending a lot more then.
Wrong wrong wrong, you come on here knowing only a very small part of the player expenditure at Salford, you spoke to one player who as with anyone going somewhere else it is always for more money, (the grass is Greener springs to mind), why would he tell you what he or any other player was getting?
For one player expenditure was cut this season from the season 2010/2011, we are well under the cap, thats why Ratchford went, we could not afford what he wanted, but I lay my hat down to some one who knows so much they can see so far into the future, do you have this Friday's lottery numbers, then Salford could pay the full cap.

Oh a typo! I will not be as graceless as GT re this type of error.

The 18000 years stuff is...inspid. Oh dear.



Re Wild, do try and keep up. SW is on LESS money than his last contract at the Giants. However it is far more than he was offered to stay (for a year) and he got a 3 year deal. If you want to pretend that Wild, Patten, Holdsworth, Smith, Anderson , Feka , bailey (severence forms part of the salary spend)etc etc etc were all taking well below the market rate then do so.

Your Ratchford comments show you are out of your depth. Clubs will determine what they will pay a player. If other clubs have a higher valuation / have fewer players in that position /offer better coaching / offer better chances of winning silverware / offer better chances of international honours etc then they may outbid a club. The salary cap may not be a deciding factor.

Many are aware of players taking cuts / waiting for payments. This could as easily suggest that a club extended itself too far on salaries (paying near to the cap) and is now cutting back. HTH.

Do keep up yourself, I already said that SW was on less money per season, or do you want me to explain it in words of one syllable or less, Jw stated at the start of the season that wages this year would less than last year, but YOU would know better than him because you had dinner with SW. The club went all out last year to try and big up the move and get bigger crowds in and so bring in more revenue to pay for this. Well the players were not that good and the crowds didn't come, plus this year the club has lost some revenue streams again stated by the chairman. As for Ratchford and Myler before him they were offered more money than at Salford, and yes McRae coaching was also part, but the Salary Cap is not the deciding factor but the ability to pay upto the max of the Salary Cap that determines what you pay your players. The fact is Salford are paying less this year than they did last year, but if you don't want to believe it thats upto you, but what is it like in the year 20012?

Interesting. Do it in words of less than one syllable. Thanks.