Other than at last see some steelwork going up at Barton today what other boxes do we tick????

We have a big name coach with a massive media presence



I'd suggest the combination of Wakefield's troubles and the new ground are all that is preventing squeeky bum time amongst the powers that be at Salford.

I deffo agree with you there Michigan,if Wakey hadnt have gone into admin id seriously be touching cloth as we have done absolutely fooook all in any other areas!!!

Youth Development down to the good work Alan Hunte has done over the years.
Community work in the Local Schools and colleges and further affield.
Unfortunately these and the new stadium are overshadowed by the poop performances and the dropping attendances.
If it was not for Wakefields very sorry state then we would be the favourites to be booted out.

Wakefield might not be favourites to be booted out if their admission fee goes to £10 permanently and they start getting really good crowds as a result, not impossible.

Of course we deserve a franchise.
The teams form is irrelevant,otherwise every season would see the worst performing team excluded from the competition.
This should not even be a discussion thread,its an insult to those who are putting in so much effort.
And,the stadium would not have started unless we'd been given a steer that we are in next season.
How about some positive comments.

someone talking sense.

The new badges in the Club Shop are good

Come on get real - the £10 offer is a one off - their chairman has said he'll personally make up the difference to the real ticket price for every ticket purchased

However - you are right to be worried, if Wakey do start winning a few and we carry on in our downward spiral ..........

I believe that would be called relegation?

And I couldn't agree more. Form is pretty much irrelevant.

Clubs are assessed on criteria in 5 key areas:
a. Commercial, Marketing, Media and Community.
b. Facilities.
c. Finance.
d. Governance and Business Management.
e. Playing Strength and Player Performance Strategy.

Clubs that meet all of the A Grade criteria across the 5 areas will be awarded an A Grade licence.  Clubs that materially meet all the A Grade criteria and/or satisfy the RFL that they will meet the criteria in the next round of licensing will be awarded a B Grade licence. 

You'll notice "e" further down on the list. We will be awarded a B grade license at very least.

I suggest folk do there homework or concentrate on over throwing SM before starting silly posts.

Its such a shame that we had a decent crowd in the other night for the first time in ages,and not many of em will be coming back for a while!!On the way to the toilets at half time i heard at least ten comments of people such as,"ahh well thats me done for the season".....one lad to his daughter who was one of young cheer leaders"i think ill just drop u off and pick u up afterwards in future princess" !!!etc etc

Top one pal, totally agree

THE TEAMS FORM IS IRRELEVANT........................lets face it we have had no sort of form in the last 2 years,thats why we get perfetic crowds!!!

ITS AN INSULT TO THOSE WHO ARE PUTTING IN SO MUCH EFFORT......fair enough yes,but it is an insult to the loyal fans that have had spent there hard earnt wages on watching so much garbage under our coach who has taken us backwards not forwards!young players developed by alan hunte have either not had there chance and been off loaded else where or over shadowed and gone backwards under our current manangement regime who insist on wasting the clubs money on has been aussies and crooked players using us as a retirement home!!!tell me if im wrong but wasnt the franchise system designed and set up for clubs to develop and produce young local british talent,????you cant have been watxching the same team as me as players like ratchford(constantly over looked)or the likes of sidlow/adamson/jewitt etc have gone backwards in there game!!!

AS FOR POSITIVES,ill back-check our head coaches comments over the last 2 seasons as he always seems to find some after games regardless of the result lol!!

Bonita absolutely correct above.

The teams form is irrelevant? The fans might as well not bother turning up then.

I'm sorry but your missing our point. We agree totally that our current coach and performances are a disgrace and should only result in the sacking of SM. BUT we are responding to Someones question of "do we rearly deserve a franchise? And the answer is yes based on the below which is repeated for your sake.

Clubs are assessed on criteria in 5 key areas:
a. Commercial, Marketing, Media and Community.
b. Facilities.
c. Finance.
d. Governance and Business Management.
e. Playing Strength and Player Performance Strategy.
Clubs that meet all of the A Grade criteria across the 5 areas will be awarded an A Grade licence.  Clubs that materially meet all the A Grade criteria and/or satisfy the RFL that they will meet the criteria in the next round of licensing will be awarded a B Grade licence. 

Once again I'll point out point "e". Further down on the list.

I agree our coaching and backroom staff needs an overhaul starting with the departure of SM but our performances have very little impact on our application success.

Salford v Saints 2010 = 5685
Salford v Saints 2011 = 5929

Not a massive difference. Plus two crowds over 6000 last year

Come on you know full well that the comment made by Bonita Red was in the context of a franchise. It's pretty obvious that no Salford supporter is pleased with our form under the present coach.

Fair points lyrad red and it is meant to be a discussion,and thats what forums are for.
One of my biggest points i made is that the main purpose of the franchising system is to help develop the game at a local/super league/and national level regarding the youth development of british players,and to give clubs the chance to produce home grown talent!we have sadly had chances to do this with alan hunte and his team working hard and some great kids waiting in the wings who are being overshadowed by the useless crop of crooked players we have bought to the club,what did willie talau(prob cost us £150k over 2 years)bring to the party?doesnt look like our big name signings in messrs anderson and bailey are gonna bring much to the cause either!ive been more impressed especialy in the full back position in what i have seen in young jack holmes then our £140k a year aussie star so far this season!!

True, but if there was still relegation Mcrae would've been gone 12-18 months ago, yet the fans are expected to put up with poor coaching/performances every week and then celebrate getting a franchise. Fantastic.

Think we do deserve a franchise for the sterling work the club is doing getting the stadium built (OK in conjunction with many other parties) but saying the youth policy is a selling point is a moot point at the minute as we seem to have a coach with the reverse Midas touch. Hunte brings through some cracking youngsters and then inexplicably they steadily go backwards when he loses his influence over them.

How ironic it would be if SM is a leading cause if we don't franchise when he was brought in for his big name status to help secure our bid last time.

I think C and D have been kicked into touch due to some clubs in development areas being unable to pass them.

300+ increase in attendance on last years fixture is worth a well done from me keep up the good work

Probably not , but with Barton on the way you are well worth another 5/6 years to get it moving in Man , sorry Salford

So the answer is yes , because of your location , so don't waste it

Not usually one to put a negative spin on things but there's every chance that the extra 300 were mainly Saints fans coming for a last look at The Willows.

I thoroughly expect every away following to be 10% bigger this year for the same reason.