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| Can anyone think of any positives he has brought to our club?? im not a fan of him personally (never have been) just wondered what others views were??
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| Whatever he's not he is high profile in the super league and he has a TV presence that sees our clubs badge swirling around everytime he's on Sky, in much the same way R.Paul had the same influence over the last two years.
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| hes not been the best but not the worse to be honest.last 10 years i think rhino has been our best coach.mcrae has pulled out a few good perfomace out of the hat like the leeds st helens bradford wins from last season.like i said hes not the best but i dont think a high class coach will come to us to be honest.but it dont help that salford fans after one home game booing him and the team after 10 minutes against crusaders.
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| Quote ="faddy860"hes not been the best but not the worse to be honest.last 10 years i think rhino has been our best coach.mcrae has pulled out a few good perfomace out of the hat like the leeds st helens bradford wins from last season.like i said hes not the best but i dont think a high class coach will come to us to be honest.but it dont help that salford fans after one home game booing him and the team after 10 minutes against crusaders.'"
Spot on.
We are not going to attract world-class coaches. The best thing we can do is stick with one and give the club stability, at least for the transition period to the new stadium. Some fans have to face facts that we are not the sleeping giants they seem to think we are. At least not yet.
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| Like said he's not the best but not the worst, what makes you wonder though is when we do pull off them results like saints and leeds, why can't we play like that most games? instead of a select few? is that down to mcrae or the players commitment? It's like when city play united, they seem to find that extra 10-15%.
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"Like said he's not the best but not the worst, [size=150what makes you wonder though is when we do pull off them results like saints and leeds[/size, why can't we play like that most games? instead of a select few? is that down to mcrae or the players commitment? It's like when city play united, they seem to find that extra 10-15%.'"
Shaun McRae has implemented a predictable ‘damage limitation’ game plan that is occasionally successful and relies on playing virtually mistake free football, the ref being unbiased and the opposition having an off day/night.
The problem is this kind of game plan would be much more effective with a higher caliber of players that are capable of pulling a few rabbits out of the hat. No disrespect to our lads but it's such a long shot at odds of about 8/1 each match in my opinion!
Personally I would prefer us to adopt a more aggressive, highly motivated 'In your face' off the cuff style. I realise that this may not necessarily guarantee more wins but i'm sure it would give the fans more heart and entertain us.
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| The jurys still out for me(even after nearly 3 years). He talks a good game but to be Salford coach you need to be a good motivator and give them a kick up the every now and again. Even in NL1 we often struggled in games we should have been winning comfortably. The recruitment has been up and down, Henry, Swain are top drawer but Jeremy Smith blows hot and cold(usually freezing cold). He's a good bloke, but then again Alan Titchmarsh is a good bloke, coaching is another matter
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| Is doing the best he is capable of with limited resources.
I personally would have got rid last season and gone for Noble. I think Noble's impact at Crusaders speaks for itself. Why we missed that opportunity is beyond me. I also actually believe that Noble by virtue of appearances on the BBC is much higher profile than Mr Talk A Good Game (but rarely deliver).
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| I don't know what the Answer is too this qustion but, I think because he is a Gentleman and we know how Wilky likes respectable people in his business maybe that is what has kept him in the Job. I think we could go far with somebody like John Kear in charge! And hopefully when we move to our new stadium either Kear or Millward will be our headcoach and maybe Shaun will be moved upstairs to become Coporate Manager or the like.
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| Bring back KH
How can players respect a coach who looks like a tub of lard?
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| Quote ="Rooted Red"How can players respect a coach who looks like a tub of lard?'"
Actually made me smile that for some reason
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| McRae is severly limited as a coach but I am not going to knock him as I dont think we can attract any better. Our present circumstances, i.e our finances, ground situation, training facilities etc, mean that we are not going to attract any of the better coaches, or players for that matter. This shows why the new stadium is so important.
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| personally i dont think we have a bad squad this season.Maybe a touch light in the forwards but we have what we have.I do feel we should be capable of better with our resources we have.Thats why i question the coaching??theres a saying "you cant polish a turd!!" but i dont believe we are as bad as it seems so far.
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| hes the best in game at talking total waste of time worst coach in history
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| Quote ="applehead""you cant polish a turd!!"'"
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| So we deserved a draw then did we coach McRae?
Well it would have had to be 0-0 because if the game had been played to midnight the Reds still would not have scored last night.
OK our defense last night was pretty solid but in order to win games you have to 'ATTACK' and score points last night our attack at times was crap to say the least.
Never mind it's the French next week and of course they are also crap and we fully expect our first win of the season but will we win that is the big question this week.
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| We should of got Millward in the close season.
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| Quote ="jim morrison"We should of got Millward in the close season.'"
You could be right but any coach is only as good as his players and last night our players failed to shine/score.
My main moan about last night was the lack of ball Talau recieved I'm sure the big man only got a handful of passes all the game.
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| Think we got behind the players pretty well last night, maybe its time to get behind Mcrae as well?
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| Some people really need to join the real world. I have never been a particular fan of McRae throughout his career, and certainly wasn't overwhelmed when he joined Salford. Likewise since then we have had a mixed bag - although he took us out of NL1, helped get us into SL, and produced some fantastic results last year (Saints/Leeds).
But this season in particular, he is clearly working on a severely restricted budget, and as a result, with a limited squad. It is completely unrealistic to think the likes of Noble or Tony Smith (coaches who maybe could do a better job) would come to Salford. And those coaches who might - up and comers from NL1 or the like - do not have the profile or the experience McRae has to offer. Plus he is a regular on Sky, keeping Salford's profile raised.
McRae has always been a coach who trains his team, gives them a game plan, and then sends the team out there with a responsibility to execute the plan correctly. It is frustrating when that doesn't happen, and also when no apparent action is taken from the sidelines to try to rectify the situation. But again, given the limited nature of our squad this season (less options than last), it could be argued that we don't have a plan B because we don't have anyone who can come on and change a game.
In a nutshell, we all need to get behind the coach and the team. McRae is doing a decent job this year under the circumstances. The only win we need to achieve this year is a new stadium, because no amount of wins are going to keep us in SL without that. I'll pay my money, and trust Mr Wilkinson to spend it wisely.
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| What he will have brought are the building blocks for Salford to be a force to be reckoned with in years to come. He did it at saints and Hull and the Rabbits from wht i have seen he is very good at building a club structure but then a new coach needs to come in to make it kick on
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| Quote ="Gadger" maybe its time to get behind Mcrae as well?'"
and what has he actually brought to this club for the fans to get behind him
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| I would suggest that SM will stay on as head coach until we hopefully move to the new stadium where the club I suspect will be looking for a big name coach to match the new grander scale.
Would think that maybe SM would remain with the club in some capacity.
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| still don't rate him, he has managed to coach out some of the players skills, Ratchford is going downhill fast, imagine if Myler would have stayed for another season he would have ended up back at widnes as a very poor scrum half. McRae has brought next to nothing to the club, when put on the spot he answers the questions with answers which have nothing to do with the question. John Kear has a similar budget to us and a similar squad but they pull out the stops and get good wins, McRae looks for draws only it seems, damage limitation gameplans will not win matches, last night when we attacked we got near the line and all ideas had gone. When we did have the ball 4th or 5th tackle bradford's fullback and one winger were dropping back 40 to 50 metres behind the line, what did we do? kicked long into their arms, where a short dink over the defending line a couple of times may have put us through gaps and possibly over the line. Also the backs would not draw back so far, they were not put under pressure at all, I could see this from the club end so surely the SLUG could see what was happening and why not get a message out. No he is a very poor coach when it comes to working with mediocre to average players he is not the man for that job.
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| anyone see adamson having a pop at someone on the bulls bench when he was took off near the end of the game? who was it he was having a go at?
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