Biggest shock of the night winning X factor, sorry Beeb personality of the year.

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Well done giggsy

Yep, well done that man.
Fully deserved, and one of the very few pro footballers I can think of who doesn't appear to have let all his fame and fortune go to his head.




I still think A P McCoy should win this sooner or later.......... LEGEND !

Or Phil Taylor.

Well done Mr Giggs

Pleasantly surprised to see Giggsy win tonight.

Sure the playground at Grosvenor Road will be buzzing about it tomorrow morning?!

I am not really a football fan but he deserves this award if there is anyone kids should look up to as a sportsman it would be ryan giggs as someone said above a model pro and he hasnt shown off with is wealth well done ryan giggs

Aries Sir Ryan, a true Utd legend

. Cannot believe some of the cr*p I've heard this morning about him not deserving the award

. Can anyone explain why Haye (after 1 meaningful fight), Murray (after another season of near misses) or Button (only won because he had a better car) deserve the award more?

Ok, so Giggsy doesn't play all the time. Name me another 36 year old in world Football that can influence a game as much as he does. Giggs has been at THE biggest club in the world for 20 years and can still justify a place in the team. Footballers very rarely make the shortlist for SPOTY due to the team nature but when you look at the achievements of Giggs (which IMO will never be matched) I fiond it extremely churlish to question it being deserved.

BTW, good shout on Phil Taylor, possibly the most dominant sportsman ever in his chosen field. McCoy..... costs me too much money to be considered I'm afraid





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I’m not sure; I think Murray and Haye had strong claims too.

After you take off the red tinted specs you will probably find that a lot of people are bemused because it is supposed to be sportsman of the year, NOT what he has done for the last 20 years. indeed he has been a great servant to the dirties but i think personally other people deserved it. How many titles has taylor won?

No it's not - it is Sports Personality Of The Year - but looking at some of the winers over past years you'd be hard put to find their personality

From a psychological perspective, it doesn't say whether the winners personality has to be extroverted or indeed introverted. Giggs, like many others, have personalities, just not particularly entertaining or obvious personalities. If you wanted a big, extroverted personality, as I'm sure most would, Philips Idowu would've surely won...

Erm, think I might avoid this forum immediately after having my head in a psychology text book in future.

Many, but without the risk of serious injury and I'm pretty sure that he's hardly had to endure a mega-strict fitness regime like many other 'sportsmen/women'

As much as I admire Phil Taylor & Co and appreciate their level of skill, let's be honest, darts is a game at any level, not a sport.

.......awaits an absolute mauling from darts lovers

All I’ll say is that if golf is a sport, and it is acknowledged as such, then so is darts.

But some of us see football as nothing but a morality draining spectacle and it's participants not worthy of winning such a prestigious award. For me Taylor would deserve it much more than Giggs, Taylor can easily lay claim to being the best darts player in the world if not the best player the world has ever seen.

I personally think Tiger Woods should have won something as he must be the most naturally gifted sportsman in the world, to be as dominant in the world of golf as he has been over the years when he clearly has been practiseing his horizontal gymnastics rather than his golf swing

I completely agree Chico. As much as I absolutely love playing and watching golf, as far as I'm concerned, it too is a game.

Anyway, back on topic, I think Ryan Giggs fully deserved an award such as this.
There are plenty of s in pro football, many of them making huge amounts of money for being no better than average. Giggs isn't one of them.

Well Done Giggsy. A model pro in every way. Fully deserved.

That is only because fergie the bully wont let him talk to the media unless he wants him too. Regarding taylor, it might not be physical preperation that he does to his game but it sure is mental preperation, something you didnt do when you cost me a fiver in the club when we played darts

Sorry but I take my pre-match Darts training extremely seriously. You try polishing off a Wetherspoons tea followed by 5/6 pints and then tell me I haven't put the preparation in.

the F1 Champions team should be up for awards not the driver as you said, the car has a lot to do with the outcomes.

F1. Tut.

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