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| Why can't we have draws in super league games?
We're not american FFS we can handle games ending in a tie.
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| I'm not a fan of it either, it feels a very naff way to decide a game.
If they absolutely must have a result I'd go with the compromise of 1 point each and an extra point for the golden point winner.
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| Quote ="scarrie"I'm not a fan of it either, it feels a very naff way to decide a game.
If they absolutely must have a result I'd go with the compromise of 1 point each and an extra point for the golden point winner.'"
DGs need to be taken out of the equation. It just becomes boring and on some occasions sides lose without even touching the ball.
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| I dont like it, it would be more bearable scoring golden point for an extra point, but I don't feel the team that lose out shouldn't get any points at all. This would work a lot better with 3 points for a win, so the spare bonus point goes to one of the sides but they still don't get a full 3 points.
If you can't beat a team in 80 minutes do you deserve full points? If you don't lose in 80 minutes do you deserve nothing? It just doesn't sit right with me.
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| Quote ="CW8"I dont like it, it would be more bearable scoring golden point for an extra point but I don't feel the team that lose out shouldn't get any points at all. This would work a lot better with 3 points for a win, so the spare bonus point goes to one of the sides but they still don't get a full 3 points.
If you can't beat a team in 80 minutes do you deserve full points? If you don't lose in 80 minutes do you deserve nothing? It just doesn't sit right with me.'"
That's a great point, never really thought about it like that. But I guess any possibility to share some points would increase the chances of teams playing for a point. E.g you're just above relegation or two points inside the play offs. You're better off not taking a risk and letting it go to golden point so you pick up a point.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"That's a great point, never really thought about it like that. But I guess any possibility to share some points would increase the chances of teams playing for a point. E.g you're just above relegation or two points inside the play offs. You're better off not taking a risk and letting it go to golden point so you pick up a point.'"
What I meant (but didn't really explain clearly enough) is this: if we had a scenario where there were 3 points for a standard league win and zero for a loss. We could have a point each for a draw at full time and then the team that scores the golden point, picks up the spare bonus point, so they get 2 points instead of the 1 point that the golden point loser would receive.
No matter the outcome of the game there would always 3 points at stake which would be more fairly distributed pending the result. You can't do golden point in a fair way at the minute with 2 points for a league win, so I dont like golden point, but I'm not totally against the concept of golden point if the league points structure was changed a little.
I actually think rugby unions bonus point structure is really good, it's certainly revolutionised that sport, there is always something to play for with losing bonus point and try scoring bonus points.
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| I'm also of the opinion that they don't add anything to regular league games. I think a draw with 1 league point being awarded to each team is a more fair and fitting way of doing things.
In a playoff situation where you need a definitive result I can see why they are used. But a period of normal extra-time should be used first.
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| Leigh fan here, and it needs to be abolished, especially in a League that involves relegation.
Wakefield deserved their point. They should have one !!
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| There was a draw in the round at the weekend, or was there?
According to the match centre on the Ourleague app there were no draws and Salford beat Wakefield, but if you look at the predictions section it says there was a draw between Salford and Wakefield. The league table shows Wakefield received no league points so they must have lost, but what would a bookmaker say the result was?
It doesn't make any sense.
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| Quote ="Hopie"There was a draw in the round at the weekend, or was there?
According to the match centre on the Ourleague app there were no draws and Salford beat Wakefield, but if you look at the predictions section it says there was a draw between Salford and Wakefield. The league table shows Wakefield received no league points so they must have lost, but what would a bookmaker say the result was?
It doesn't make any sense.'"
I can't stand golden point for regular league games anyway, but one of the things I hate about it in general is bookmakers legit just pick and choose whether or not they count it based on how they're feeling. I have been paid out after golden point countless times, but not every time. In the WCC I had welsby & hurrell to score and saints to win at 18/1. Skybet settled this as a loser, but 365 settled similar bets as winners. And sky have settled them as winners in the past. Its pretty infuriating
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| Golden point should only be used after extra time in a knockout match. If a team earns a draw away in a league game then they should share the points.
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| Quote ="The Reaper"I can't stand golden point for regular league games anyway, but one of the things I hate about it in general is bookmakers legit just pick and choose whether or not they count it based on how they're feeling. I have been paid out after golden point countless times, but not every time. In the WCC I had welsby & hurrell to score and saints to win at 18/1. Skybet settled this as a loser, but 365 settled similar bets as winners. And sky have settled them as winners in the past. Its pretty infuriating'"
Some bookmakers will take the result after 80 minutes, no extra time. Some will take the final match result. It should tell you which when taking the bet.
Again, rugby is played over 80 minutes. There should be no extra time or golden points unless it is a knockout competition, such as CC, playoffs, or GF.
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| Quote ="reffy"Golden point should only be used after extra time in a knockout match. If a team earns a draw away in a league game then they should share the points.'"
I agree. It's perfectly suited to a cup game, but not at all necessary for the league.
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| A draw and a point could be the difference between relegation and staying up come the season end.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"A draw and a point could be the difference between relegation and staying up come the season end.'"
I agree Roy. The only people who don't see it, are the clowns running the game.
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| Quote ="Cokey"I agree Roy. The only people who don't see it, are the clowns running the game.'"
The Aussies did it so we have to do it.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"The Aussies did it so we have to do it.'"
Doesnt matter as there is no relegation in the ARL.
If it is a 'Must', then it needs to be a 3 point match with the extra point going to the team getting the golden point if successful.
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| Adds nothing to the game, we've won some and lost plenty. It just feels contrived. A draw is a fair result when two teams perform at a similar level for 80m, no need to force a binary outcome.
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| When this rule was brought in it should have been a point for each team with a bonus point for winning in golden point. It's madness that a team can come away with nothing after effectively matching the opposition for 80 minutes, especially when they might not even get a touch of the ball.
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| Another game last night where two sides equally matched after 80 minutes couldn’t end in a draw. Decided after 13 hours of tit for tar drop goal attempts. I lost count at 900 missed drop goals.
Golden point is the worst Australian import since Rolf Harris.
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| Needs to end ... nothing wrong with a draw in a league fixture.
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| A League should be decided on points earned, if you win you earn 2 points, if you draw you earn 1 point.
The golden point could be used after extra time in knockout games.
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| Quote ="CW8"....... I actually think rugby unions bonus point structure is really good, it's certainly revolutionised that sport, there is always something to play for with losing bonus point and try scoring bonus points.'"
The RFL (in its infinite wisdom) toyed with this before but only at Championship (and maybe League 1) level - think it was 2015. Two points for a win, none for a tonking but one bonus point for the losing side if they restricted the margin to two scores or less. Computer re-runs of previous seasons showed that this would not have skewed the tables very much but would, it was thought, incentivise trailing teams.
It was abandoned after one season!
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| IMG might revive it as they seem to be adopting every other previously failed RL scheme!
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| I'm all for it. Sport is about winning, not drawing.
Nobody enjoys a draw.
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