With the Festivus season upon us, it is time to air our grievances and say what we think.

What do you think IMG or the RFL need to do to make RL better for the masses?

They need to stop believing clubs who promise a new stadium to get a licence yet 10 years later are still in the same dump.

Like Castleford. Or what about clubs that don't own their own ground?

Clubs with no assets to fall back on and totally reliant on rich owners are a bigger problem than clubs who are still working on getting their stadia in order. In particular Huddersfield and Wigan, as by far the biggest loss-makers and most reliant on sugar-daddies, are clubs who should be marked down in these respects; they are simply not viable businesses and are disasters waiting to happen.

Well you would have to put Hull,Leigh and Leeds (a sporting club own the stadium as well as Leeds RU and Leeds RL ,poss the cricket as well) I believe.
Also would like to point out that Wigan and Hudds and the rest will not disappear anytime soon.
I also believe Wigan have assets at Orrell old RU ground.

Hull are quite prudently run and don't rack up huge losses year after year like Wigan and Huddersfield although no doubt they wish they had a rich backer and more security against landlord antics. Leigh we all know are a disaster waiting to happen but they're not in SL yet and probably won't stick around for very long anyway.

What you think you know about Leeds meanwhile is utterly incorrect. Leeds own, and have always owned, the stadium, there is no "sporting club" involved. Leeds rugby union were for a time under common ownership and rented the stadium but that is no longer the case and they don't even play at Headingley any more. Yorkshire Cricket have owned the cricket ground since Leeds sold it to them 15 or more years ago.

Thankyou for your correction to the ownership of Headingley,who owns the stand at the cricket as I was in the believe that some times if a match is on rather be it cricket or Rugby the other club cannot play at the same time.
I am sure you will inform me.
Wigan are part owned By Danson who is a Billionaire and Lenners friend and business partner so I do not think we are going anywhere my friend.

As aside every team apart from Wakefield lost money and the biggest losses were Wigan and St Helens.

Hull are quite prudently run and don't rack up huge losses year after year like Wigan and Huddersfield although no doubt they wish they had a rich backer and more security against landlord antics.[u Leigh we all know are a disaster waiting to happen but they're not in SL yet and probably won't stick around for very long anyway.
[/u


Please elaborate The Ghost of Xmas's to come. You've not stopped crying since Zak left LEEDS! LEEDS! LEEDS! for the mighty LEOPARDS!!

Leeds Tykes have played Sale 17/12/22- so sometimes they do play at Headingly.

As long as Leigh invest everything into only first team players and scrimp on everything else they will not be taken seriously. A decent coach might help too.

No doubt when this latest bit of short-termism falls apart Beaumont will do a runner and stop paying everyone like he did last time.

I can safely say Leigh will bring more away support than you lot.

The arrangements around the shared stand are ridiculously complicated but it's effectively jointly owned (see [url=https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10747361Headingley North-South Stand Limited on Companies House)[/url.

Generally, operations at the ground are subject to an agreement between Leeds and Yorkshire which again is very involved but works in the interests of all parties and doesn't incentivise either of them to stick to only using their own facilities. So Leeds use the cricket Long Bar for corporates at RL games on top of the stuff directly attached to the RL stadium whilst Yorkshire take advantage for example of the pavilion and the hotel which are owned/controlled by Leeds.

Obviously you couldn't have two major events on at the same time so the stadium calendar is carefully controlled, with exclusion zones particularly around cricket test matches and potential SL playoff dates. But it's not uncommon for there to be a regular YCCC long-format game on in the day ending just before a Leeds game in the evening. They have by exception also managed to play both at the same time but that becomes a bit logistically painful as there are no separate turnstiles.

OK, once a year they still take their biggest game to the ground.

Now I really know you're full of BS, because you know absolutely nothing about Leigh. You've never stopped showing your hatred for Leigh for quite some time now. I think Karma will turn out to be a wonderful thing, and you will end up with egg on your face. You'll see Ghosty.

Alright chuck.

I don't hate Leigh but the amateurism and short-termism of the club owner is not helping anyone. Least of all the club if you were being honest with yourself.

So a stand is joint owned,ok.
The reason Leeds played was because the pitch was frozen not because it is their biggest game of the year.

Look, Leigh helped SL in 2021 to balance the league (AFTER) all the best players available beforehand had been swallowed up. Promoted teams have always been at a disadvantage but, you're quite happy with that, so you can enjoy facing the whipping boys. You see, we now have the IMG who which will ensue to fix that problem. So, you have been part of the problem, and not the solution. Leigh have done it different this time which you deliberately fail to see/accept.

Oh, and Zak plays for Leigh now, whether you like it or not.

What will IMG see when they take a look at Leigh? They don't own their ground, have a recent history of contract issues/not paying players, reliant on one slightly but not very rich owner, no website, done a rebrand that somehow produced a non-digital compliant logo, no elite academy, no real on-field track record.

Low grade B/upper grade C looks likely to me.

So lets put Leigh back in the championship, and then what would you like to do next?
Why do you keep bashing clubs for trying to make a go of it?
You're nothing but a sanctimonious narcissists'.

Lots of clubs do lots of good things. All do occasional or even more frequent bad things or make poor decisions.

I've yet to see another club do the Full Beaumont, ie turn their club into a clown car of chaos, amateurish in seemingly every aspect of how they present themselves to the world.

I will repeat myself.

So lets put Leigh back in the championship, and then what would you like to do next?
Why do you keep bashing clubs for trying to make a go of it?


It's folk like you who are the problem with this sport.
Personally, I would put You in a league of your own so you can play with yourselves.

I'd allow the team which finishes top of the Championship to be in Super League, i.e. Leigh this year.
But the idea that Beaumont is building anything for the long-term or that any of the off-field stuff is anything other than shoddy and done on the cheap doesn't seem to stand up to much scrutiny. The fact is, as far as I can see, there are lots of teams in the Championship who have a lot more to admire about them and what they do than Leigh. And I'm really sorry if that triggers you.

t doesn't trigger me, you just keep on talking BULL$4!t. You really know nowt about Leigh.
You've not done your research properly, so please stop this Leigh bashing you ignorant ****.

Always makes me laugh when someone slags another team or fans off because they feel they are superior.I for one welcome Leigh as they bring more fans to matches than super duper Leeds who havnt won anything of note lately,I do remember when they only had 5/6 thousand watching them and now they are well supported now, this could happen to Leigh.Give Leigh a chance you just never know .

Well said Jason, and thanks mate.

LOL.