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| I would love to see it happen but not when there will be no Australia. Then the fact that the NRL will not release players so NZ and Tonga for example will bring over weak sides.
It's gonna be a world cup where England walk away with the world cup with no genuine contest. This will be an absolute farce and I am shocked the RFL are still going along with this.
Also how will England react when they are told the international players who play in the NRL cannot play.
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It's not happening. Firstly the NRL have the number one priority of keeping there own competition going under huge restrictions in Australia right now so the world cup will be on the back burner.
Secondly why the RFL last week it was still happening when the NRL never signed off on it I have no idea.
You cannot host a tournament where sides are just decimated of NRL talent. It would be a complete farce and a PR nightmare.
The RFL clearly with the Ashes series revenue are banning on the world cup and that's the #1 reason they are seem to be continuing down this ridiculous path.
The BBC would have every right to tell the RFL they want a reduction in whatever they paid for tv rights if no nrl players or Australia are not there.
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It's not happening. Firstly the NRL have the number one priority of keeping there own competition going under huge restrictions in Australia right now so the world cup will be on the back burner.
Secondly why the RFL last week it was still happening when the NRL never signed off on it I have no idea.
You cannot host a tournament where sides are just decimated of NRL talent. It would be a complete farce and a PR nightmare.
The RFL clearly with the Ashes series revenue are banning on the world cup and that's the #1 reason they are seem to be continuing down this ridiculous path.
The BBC would have every right to tell the RFL they want a reduction in whatever they paid for tv rights if no nrl players or Australia are not there.
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| It’s about time to tell the whinging Aussies to wind their necks in put on their big boys trousers & play. It appears it’s ok for France Union to tour Australia, their cricketers, golfers & tennis stars are happy in England. Also if they are not willing to play they should be made to compensate all those who have invested in the event including paying our government £25 million. The gutless NRL have done their best to kill off international football over the years. A sad day for our once proud sport.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"It’s about time to tell the whinging Aussies to wind their necks in put on their big boys trousers & play. It appears it’s ok for France Union to tour Australia, their cricketers, golfers & tennis stars are happy in England. Also if they are not willing to play they should be made to compensate all those who have invested in the event including paying our government £25 million. The gutless NRL have done their best to kill off international football over the years. A sad day for our once proud sport.'"
Even if you want to see Australia told to wind there neck in how are you gonna stage a world cup without a strong NZ or any Pacific island team. You must see without NRL players this tournament becomes a joke right?
Do people only care that we get a world cup even if it is a farce??
Looking forward to seeing how the BBC promote this as a serious tournament and how England will face hard opposition.
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| The country will be in lockdown come September in any case, as soon as MPs come back from their holidays they'll vote for locking down, using the fake covid' positives deliberately misconstrued as infections (they aren't) as the reason to do so, there will either be no fans or it will be medical apartheid to attend.
Was deffo up for 4 matches and bringing others but no way am I buying tickets for this sham that is pretty much sign sealed and delivered not happening or has unlawful restrictions in place. Australia coming or not is irrelevant to how things will pan out IMHO.
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| Needs to be postponed until 2022, the players and the supporters deserve a better Would Cup than we will get in 2021 if it goes ahead.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"It’s about time to tell the whinging Aussies to wind their necks in put on their big boys trousers & play. It appears it’s ok for France Union to tour Australia, their cricketers, golfers & tennis stars are happy in England. Also if they are not willing to play they should be made to compensate all those who have invested in the event including paying our government £25 million. The gutless NRL have done their best to kill off international football over the years. A sad day for our once proud sport.'"
The issue is players coming back having to quarantine then they need there pre season holiday so could be returning to training very very late and too close to the beginning of the NRL season.
I see why the NRL is reluctant to let players go. It just doesn't seem feasible to stage the tournament this year.
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| Here is my projections for the lowest hospital admissions during the world cup which is only 95 days away.
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| Quote ="puroresu_boy"The issue is players coming back having to quarantine then they need there pre season holiday so could be returning to training very very late and too close to the beginning of the NRL season.
I see why the NRL is reluctant to let players go. It just doesn't seem feasible to stage the tournament this year.'"
Who cares if the NRL are reluctant, no other decent sport objects to their top players partaking in international competition in fact most welcome it. Throughout this pandemic major sports have struggled on, the Olympic Games are going ahead. The lions are in South Africa & we don’t here them or their clubs endlessly moaning , Union are quiet happy to have players missing through international duty (a lot more than league asks) . The NRL also don’t mind players stood down for origin games. It is just pure selfishness & total lack of interest in anything not Australian. People are correct saying it will be a farce without the NRL players but let’s put the blame where it belongs squarely in the arms of the NRL.
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| Quote ="Sadfish"Needs to be postponed until 2022, the players and the supporters deserve a better Would Cup than we will get in 2021 if it goes ahead.'"
Agreed. It will be a poor excuse of a competition if the NRL players are not involved. I certainly wouldn't want England to win it if the other nations either don't turn up or put out weakened squads.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"Who cares if the NRL are reluctant, no other decent sport objects to their top players partaking in international competition in fact most welcome it. Throughout this pandemic major sports have struggled on, the Olympic Games are going ahead. The lions are in South Africa & we don’t here them or their clubs endlessly moaning , Union are quiet happy to have players missing through international duty (a lot more than league asks) . The NRL also don’t mind players stood down for origin games. It is just pure selfishness & total lack of interest in anything not Australian. People are correct saying it will be a farce without the NRL players but let’s put the blame where it belongs squarely in the arms of the NRL.'"
Using the Olympics as an example really isn't great when you could easily make the argument that the ioc are simply going ahead with it due to the financial fall out if they cancel it. There will be no fans at the Olympics, is that really a competition that should go ahead?
Origin is rep footy so yes players must be allowed to play but notice they didn't just go ahead and put an origin game in NSW did they? They played them all in queensland as it was safe to do so. Just as the NRL has moved to queensland.
I'm not convinced the NRL are doing this just for the sake of it. They have a competition which they can't afford to take unnecessary risks which may impact a season resulting in lost revenue from broadcasters.
The lions tour has seen games cancelled. Who's to say a test doesn't get cancelled?
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| Quote ="puroresu_boy"Using the Olympics as an example really isn't great when you could easily make the argument that the ioc are simply going ahead with it due to the financial fall out if they cancel it. There will be no fans at the Olympics, is that really a competition that should go ahead?
Origin is rep footy so yes players must be allowed to play but notice they didn't just go ahead and put an origin game in NSW did they? They played them all in queensland as it was safe to do so. Just as the NRL has moved to queensland.
I'm not convinced the NRL are doing this just for the sake of it. They have a competition which they can't afford to take unnecessary risks which may impact a season resulting in lost revenue from broadcasters.
The lions tour has seen games cancelled. Who's to say a test doesn't get cancelled?
Is the lions tour'"
I can understand that it will be difficult but International football is the pinnacle of the sport if it messes up the NRL so be it. Delay the start of their next season. Every other sport is making huge efforts to get competition’s played. It is time the NRL promoted the world game & not their competition, I won’t hold my breath as they have a long record of disrespecting anything not NRL. If we can have the Euros going ahead then a competition with fewer teams should be easy.
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| It's odd, albeit understandable with current Covid risk, that SL hasn't gone back to scrums, as I believe they'll be included in the RLWC.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"Who cares if the NRL are reluctant, no other decent sport objects to their top players partaking in international competition in fact most welcome it. Throughout this pandemic major sports have struggled on, the Olympic Games are going ahead. The lions are in South Africa & we don’t here them or their clubs endlessly moaning , Union are quiet happy to have players missing through international duty (a lot more than league asks) . The NRL also don’t mind players stood down for origin games. It is just pure selfishness & total lack of interest in anything not Australian. People are correct saying it will be a farce without the NRL players but let’s put the blame where it belongs squarely in the arms of the NRL.'"
The olympic stadium and venues are going to be empty, no public are allowed from what I last read. If the WC goes ahead with no fans then that's an even bigger financial disaster and would be a souless torunament
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"It's odd, albeit understandable with current Covid risk, that SL hasn't gone back to scrums, as I believe they'll be included in the RLWC.'"
They should never have got rid of them. The idea that Scrums bring more risk when players are hitting each other at all other times is a joke.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"I can understand that it will be difficult but International football is the pinnacle of the sport if it messes up the NRL so be it. Delay the start of their next season. Every other sport is making huge efforts to get competition’s played. It is time the NRL promoted the world game & not their competition, I won’t hold my breath as they have a long record of disrespecting anything not NRL. If we can have the Euros going ahead then a competition with fewer teams should be easy.'"
It's not so easy to just delay it. The players Union won't accept a shortened calender but the same amount of games. Broadcasters also have to agree to a later start date for the season.
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| 96 people died in the UK yesterday of Covid or a Covid related illness.
You're Guinea Pigs in a tory science experiment and it's not going to be an issue if Australia rock up, because at the moment, the UK is attractive as a hooker with T-shirt declaring STD's come as standard.....Tokyo Olympics will be the litmus. The Euros have shown how this thing spreads
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| Quite shocking that the NRL are putting themselves and their domestic competition above the world cup.
Without the NRL players, it becomes an absolute waste of time.
Can it be postponed to next season and will things be any better then ?
One of the major reasons as to why the international game has gone backwards is the "Aussies" feeling that they dont need the rest of the world and specifically the UK (and France) etc, as their domestic comp is "better" but, this is mickey poor on their part.
It's quite ridiculous that "everyone" has signed without the Aussies, a move clearly designed to put them under pressure and if we go ahead without them or, try to form "international" sides with players based in Europe, this will be a major, major flop.
Get the Aussies on board now or, postpone.
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Quote ="orangeman"96 people died in the UK yesterday of Covid or a Covid related illness.
You're Guinea Pigs in a tory science experiment and it's not going to be an issue if Australia rock up, because at the moment, the UK is attractive as a hooker with T-shirt declaring STD's come as standard.....Tokyo Olympics will be the litmus. The Euros have shown how this thing spreads'"
That is patently false information and deliberately misleading and scaremongerin, that is not the situation whatsoever, not even the government have stated that!
96 peope were declared to have died BY ANY CAUSE, that died within 28 days of a positive test OR decreed to be a coronavirus death with no test whatsoever (as per UK governments own guidelines to GPs etc last March) on the back of any one of 20+ symptoms, even if the person signing off the death cert did not know, nor had ever met the deceased or seen their medical history.
With at least 97% of the PCR being false positives of the 'cases' and no infection present at 35 cycles of PCR https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-ar ... 91/5912603 and Uk continues to do 40-45 cycles of PCR and Johnson and Hancock admitted to 95% false positives of the cases last year, that alone means statistically there were ZERO actual deaths WITH infection of anything. And further, that infection IF it is cultured (they rarely are) can be anything, this is specifically stated by the CDC.
CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) PCR Diagnostic Panel (July 13, 2020)
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
"do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities”.
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You're Guinea Pigs in a tory science experiment and it's not going to be an issue if Australia rock up, because at the moment, the UK is attractive as a hooker with T-shirt declaring STD's come as standard.....Tokyo Olympics will be the litmus. The Euros have shown how this thing spreads'"
That is patently false information and deliberately misleading and scaremongerin, that is not the situation whatsoever, not even the government have stated that!
96 peope were declared to have died BY ANY CAUSE, that died within 28 days of a positive test OR decreed to be a coronavirus death with no test whatsoever (as per UK governments own guidelines to GPs etc last March) on the back of any one of 20+ symptoms, even if the person signing off the death cert did not know, nor had ever met the deceased or seen their medical history.
With at least 97% of the PCR being false positives of the 'cases' and no infection present at 35 cycles of PCR https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-ar ... 91/5912603 and Uk continues to do 40-45 cycles of PCR and Johnson and Hancock admitted to 95% false positives of the cases last year, that alone means statistically there were ZERO actual deaths WITH infection of anything. And further, that infection IF it is cultured (they rarely are) can be anything, this is specifically stated by the CDC.
CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) PCR Diagnostic Panel (July 13, 2020)
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
"do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities”.
Page 38
• “Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms”.
• “This test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens”.
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Quote ="BumpyMcbump"That is patently false information and deliberately misleading and scaremongerin, that is not the situation whatsoever, not even the government have stated that!
96 peope were declared to have died BY ANY CAUSE, that died within 28 days of a positive test OR decreed to be a coronavirus death with no test whatsoever (as per UK governments own guidelines to GPs etc last March) on the back of any one of 20+ symptoms, even if the person signing off the death cert did not know, nor had ever met the deceased or seen their medical history.
With at least 97% of the PCR being false positives of the 'cases' and no infection present at 35 cycles of PCR https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-ar ... 91/5912603 and Uk continues to do 40-45 cycles of PCR and Johnson and Hancock admitted to 95% false positives of the cases last year, that alone means statistically there were ZERO actual deaths WITH infection of anything. And further, that infection IF it is cultured (they rarely are) can be anything, this is specifically stated by the CDC.
CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) PCR Diagnostic Panel (July 13, 2020)
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
"do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities”.
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• “This test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens”.
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Hey. Tin foil hat guy. A simple glance at the registrar of deaths over the last 18 months shows a huge increase in the number of people dying compared to the years before hand. Delighted for you and your sense of individual superior intelligence, but the reality is this thing is killing people. When the good folk of the UK stayed indoors, your imaginary death rate dropped, as did infections. No amount of manipulation of figures will ever convince me that the 1% if tin foil wearing anti vax loons are correct whilst the rest of us are nowt more than sheep.
Speaking of sheep. We've still only got 26 corpses because we don't feel the need to open our borders so Sharon and Tracy could have a weekend in benidorm......90,000 cases and 160 deaths in the last 2 days....and the number of people feeling that I'll they needed to visit a hospital doubling daily.........
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96 peope were declared to have died BY ANY CAUSE, that died within 28 days of a positive test OR decreed to be a coronavirus death with no test whatsoever (as per UK governments own guidelines to GPs etc last March) on the back of any one of 20+ symptoms, even if the person signing off the death cert did not know, nor had ever met the deceased or seen their medical history.
With at least 97% of the PCR being false positives of the 'cases' and no infection present at 35 cycles of PCR https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-ar ... 91/5912603 and Uk continues to do 40-45 cycles of PCR and Johnson and Hancock admitted to 95% false positives of the cases last year, that alone means statistically there were ZERO actual deaths WITH infection of anything. And further, that infection IF it is cultured (they rarely are) can be anything, this is specifically stated by the CDC.
CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) PCR Diagnostic Panel (July 13, 2020)
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
"do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities”.
Page 38
• “Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms”.
• “This test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens”.
Page 39'"
Hey. Tin foil hat guy. A simple glance at the registrar of deaths over the last 18 months shows a huge increase in the number of people dying compared to the years before hand. Delighted for you and your sense of individual superior intelligence, but the reality is this thing is killing people. When the good folk of the UK stayed indoors, your imaginary death rate dropped, as did infections. No amount of manipulation of figures will ever convince me that the 1% if tin foil wearing anti vax loons are correct whilst the rest of us are nowt more than sheep.
Speaking of sheep. We've still only got 26 corpses because we don't feel the need to open our borders so Sharon and Tracy could have a weekend in benidorm......90,000 cases and 160 deaths in the last 2 days....and the number of people feeling that I'll they needed to visit a hospital doubling daily.........
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Speaking of sheep. We've still only got 26 corpses because we don't feel the need to open our borders so Sharon and Tracy could have a weekend in benidorm......90,000 cases and 160 deaths in the last 2 days....and the number of people feeling that I'll they needed to visit a hospital doubling daily.........
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So you think that out of 90k cases having 160 ppl die is worth locking the whole country down and hoping it will just go ? Seems crazy to me given were not calling out for all cars to be locked down as a similar amount of people were killed just crossing the road over the last 2 days too, more people have starved to death since the epidemic started than have died from covid, it exists yes people are dying from it yes but let's not overexagerate or make out like a few hundred people dying of a highly infectious virus out of tens of thousands of people who have it is anything to worry about to the extent of being afraid to leave your house !!!!
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| [urlhttps://www.nrl.com/news/2021/07/22/arl-nzrl-withdraw-from-world-cup-over-welfare-safety-concerns/[/url
Hard to see how it goes ahead without them?
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