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| Surprised not to see any comments yet about Toronto withdrawing from SL.
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| Fev trying to jump into their grave. Hope they get told to do one
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| Quote ="wantawin"Surprised not to see any comments yet about Toronto withdrawing from SL.'"
Inevitable given these unprecedented times. If only the were a pub team in Lancashire or Yorkshire.
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| Quote ="Honkytonk"Fev trying to jump into their grave. Hope they get told to do one'"
Inevitable. Empty boxes make the most noise. If they did away with dual reg and they ran an academy I'd back them all the way.
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| Maybe as it was london who went down when toronto went up london should be re instated as a SL team
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Maybe as it was london who went down when toronto went up london should be re instated as a SL team'"
Or maybe retain Toronto in SL and promote London and Toulouse cos they have at least 3 ‘o’ in their name, pull up the drawbridge and eff off the pub teams ?
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| How can you retain a team in a competition that they are no longer competing in?
If and when any decision is made on championship teams resuming play some sense may come out of it, but torontos place in 21 season must be questioned.
Are the RFL possibly looking at a team to step up and fulfil the 2020 hole in the fixture list?
So much for Sonny Bill being the future and saviour of Rugby League in the n hemis
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| A transatlantic team in SL was always going to be a long shot, the pandemic made it near enough impossible.
But beyond that I will say this, the behaviour of the SL teams was disgraceful. They stole £2million from TWP (their share of the TV revenue which the other 11 clubs divided up themselves) and told them they could sell the North American rights instead - only to then find that SKY owned them and wanted TWP to buy them back at an unworkable price. At the same time the clubs asked TWP to pay for their flights, accommodation, etc in Toronto. They just saw them as an easy way to make a few quid without doing any work.
This overall attitude impacts us too because, once again, I'm left with the feeling that the northern clubs (and lots of fans and administrators) just do not want anyone else playing their sport. We're tolerated, at a push.
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| That was not my understanding of the central funding issue! Toronto were not refused central funding they elected not to take it! So nothing was stolen.
As for TV deal and rights, pretty sure catalans deal to tekevise hime games did not involve a sky buy back, the french managed a tv deal so why couldnt the canadians?
My view is toronto thought they could get a better TV deal and generate there own income from that! Problem being like catalans that would have been to televise home games in Canada!! Big problem with that! Even with a normal season schedule they were not going to have many home games.
Maybe its time to recognise that it is a regional sport! Its the same in France, look where RL is played, thats why catalans keep going where PSG failed.
London will always struggle
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| Quote ="northernbloke"That was not my understanding of the central funding issue! Toronto were not refused central funding they elected not to take it! So nothing was stolen.
As for TV deal and rights, pretty sure catalans deal to tekevise hime games did not involve a sky buy back, the french managed a tv deal so why couldnt the canadians?
My view is toronto thought they could get a better TV deal and generate there own income from that! Problem being like catalans that would have been to televise home games in Canada!! Big problem with that! Even with a normal season schedule they were not going to have many home games.
Maybe its time to recognise that it is a regional sport! Its the same in France, look where RL is played, thats why catalans keep going where PSG failed.
London will always struggle'"
London hasn’t always struggled!
Let’s not forget Ottawa and NY are next in line to join !
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| Quote ="northernbloke"That was not my understanding of the central funding issue! Toronto were not refused central funding they elected not to take it! So nothing was stolen.
As for TV deal and rights, pretty sure catalans deal to tekevise hime games did not involve a sky buy back, the french managed a tv deal so why couldnt the canadians?
My view is toronto thought they could get a better TV deal and generate there own income from that! Problem being like catalans that would have been to televise home games in Canada!! Big problem with that! Even with a normal season schedule they were not going to have many home games.
Maybe its time to recognise that it is a regional sport! Its the same in France, look where RL is played, thats why catalans keep going where PSG failed.
London will always struggle'"
Not true at all.
TWPs agreement with the RFL was not to take central funding in Championship and League 1, but nothing had been agreed for SL. When promoted the SL clubs refused to give them the 12th share of funding, keeping it for themselves instead. They told TWP they could sell the North American TV rights, but then it emerged that those had already been included in the SKY deal, so TWP needed to buy the rights back from SKY and then try to re-sell them. But they couldn't pay SKY what they were asking and sell them at a profit. So they were stuffed.
Catalans is completely different. They get a full share of the TV money, just like the other clubs. Always have done. That's the deal SL (under the leadership of Richard Lewis) and Catalans brokered when entering the league. There's a separate deal that sees French TV show Catalans home games, and essentially give the live feed of that to SKY in return for taking the live feed of the games SKY cover in England.
As to your comments on London always struggling - that's arguable. But the truth is the game will always struggle to expand because the northern clubs don't want it to. Contrast to the NRL, where Melbourne have received around $100m more than the other clubs over the past 20 years simply because the game knew it needed to expand and to thrive. Now, obviously the RFL/SL don't have that amount of money to use, but over my 26 years watching London the club has not received one penny more than the other clubs. Not a penny.
The game is still run by people with the attitude of 19th century mill owners. They're incapable of seeing, never mind understanding or adapting to, the modern sporting landscape.
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| NY Ottowa Toronto i have no problem with, just cannot see the point in trying to include them in the british league.
Form a N American league, build the fan base from there, A N Atlantic competition is not financially sensible, teams struggle enough as it is without burden of those sort of travel and accom costs.
See its being reported London have made an offer to fill the fixture gap left by toronto
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| London covering for Toronto sounds sensible to everyone except those running the game no doubt.
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