I take it they will get the label to be favorites for the drop but I think the RFL have missed a trick here to stop the yo yoing of clubs coming up and down from the championships, why couldn't they at least given clubs a years grace before being in the drop zone, its going to be one hell of a task to stay up next year

good luck Londarn

London or Salford

And thats the downfall of the process. London now have to sign player, get them in early and get ready for SL. Maybe they should get a 12 month relegation dispensation.

chin chin....

They're gone.

Replaced by the Wolfpack!!

Looks weird if the second bottom team goes down though, doesn’t it? I know they did it for Catalans, of course.

As a Hull KR fan, i’ve seen us get up and stay up the next season twice in a little over a decade. It’s really tough - but it’s possible.

This new/old system results in a the risk of yo-yoing.
Licensing, even if implemented with more honesty and transparency than last time, risks leading to stagnation as much as offering stability.
The 8s was over complicated and a bit random, to say the least. More in a Russian roulette than raffle kinda way.

The only option we haven’t tried is re-election, and that’s a bit political for most people’s tastes.

There’s no perfect solution.

Licensing is the only solution. We need to secure London, Toronto and Toulouse as permanent members of Super League. Only licensing can ensure that.

Welcome home bazza.......tad chilly I take it the thongs are binned for the season?

Danny Ward has done a great job, and as a player he helped a newly promoted team survive in 2007.



London have a core of good players. Their fullback looks an excellent prospect. I’ve always thought Jay Pitts looks a decent player when i’ve seen him. They’ll have to strengthen, as any promoted team does. They’ll probably suffer the odd heavy defeat, and they might go back down, but I think they’ll bring more on their return than Widnes did this year. P&R does bring in ‘new blood’, and sometimes a struggling club needs to be taken out of the top flight firing line. When Huddersfield kept finishing bottom of SL and not being relegated, I suspect that did them more harm than good in a lot of ways.

Careful......such sensible posts will get you bad reputation on here



Not often I get to post on here when hammered......[size=200=#FF0000[u[i..come on you broncos[/i[/u[/size

and where's lebron.......I WANNA PLAY

Keep dreaming troll I'm so glad your expansion dream died on it's ar*e

I think London probably need to bring in 10 players. Not over the hill journeymen but youthful with plenty of energy.

Wardy probably needs to bolster his coaching team too.

The challenge starts today I suspect. We need to get a team together before Xmas and get them training.

I would imagine the chairman will use Tony Rea and some of the ex Broncos contacts out in Australia to scout some players. They've had success using this model in the past with players like Dorn, Drinkwater, Tommy L, Mclinden, Vea, Hopkins, Anderson, Ex Cas England RU winger.... Blend them in with the London young lads and hopefully we can steer clear of relegation.

One thing...
This new setup is the product of the SL clubs not the RFL.

Is Tony Rea still talking with David Hughes after Tony lost his job there?
I suspect that as i write this agents are contacting David Hughes and Danny Ward with a list of players they have on their books, who might be capable of helping the Broncos stay in Super League, off course the problem might be wages, but time will tell

If and when the other two teams manage to secure a place in SL, then if they're good enough they will secure their place without we whoever we is, thereby ensuring their membership of super league on merit.

Fully agree about Ward. There weren't too many tipping London for promotion at the start of the season and he's done a great job down there.
As for the argument on "protection", you are right about Huddersfield, saved primarily because of their stadium, not to mention the "merger" with Sheffield and I think they are just finalising the logistics of playing in another county


However, Catalan certainly benefited from their protected years, although I'm not too sure that the Cas fans were too happy when they were relegated from 11th.
Any promoted side will have to spend big AND get lucky to avoid a quick return to The Championship.
However, it's right to have P/R settled on the field of play and thae game last night was one hell of a nail biter, WOW.
Cant imagine how that was for the fans of both clubs.
Personally, I'm still uncomfortable with the N. American experiment and the logistics of playing games over there, with short turnarounds and the climate (at the start of the season), not to mention the costs imposed on their opponents, not to mention the N.American clubs (although they at least go into this knowing what's in front of them) and I still believe that SL should have expanded to 14 clubs.
There will now be a serious test fo Toronto and their backers and another year (minimum) in The Championship is sure to test their resolve.

Well done London, David certainly beat Goliath

If Widnes can hang on to their best players they could well challenge strongly for the championship next season, but i expect Toronto to strengthen again for next season, and in my opinion are favourites for the title, but favourites don't always win, and possibly Bradford could be the dark horses next season in the championship

Lets have a car boot sale, Wigan could do with offloading Tautai, if either Sarg & Clubb wanted to go back we shouldn't stop them. Maybe Wigan could loan Marshall or Davies for the season. The problem with the market at the moment is Leeds want a new team so players will naturally gravitate towards them, or conversely it could open up the market, who knows , either way it could be exciting times for player transfers.

i wonder how our sir kevin sinfield is feeling today ?
if you are feeling a tad depressed, there is help out there you know.
don't bottle it up inside, as it is good to talk.

Good luck to the bronco's next season, hope they prove the doubters and lovers of toronto kittens wrong.

Is yo-yo-ing the problem it's perceived to be? Everyone bar none is lamenting current standards of the game. If a side has the necessary backing and ambition, promotion and survival in the top flight shouldn't be insurmountable. If they haven't then it's a case of one weak-ish club replacing another until such time as a credible long-term addition to the top flight materialises. Which tends to happen, often as not.

That would be the natural order, the strong survive etc, etc.
One of the major downsides to the old P/R and the upside to "franchising" is the opportunity for young players to prosper.
Back in the day, most (if not all) clubs under threat of relegation would sign journeyman pros who regularly swapped clubs in the lower half of the table of moved between promoted and relegated sides.
This didn't appear to happen anything like as much under "franchising" and we are likely to see a return of this "horse trading".
Mind you, Toronto re-started this trend many months ago



Seriously though, are we now going to see fewer youngsters getting their chance ?

Also, why didn't Toronto give any game time to their local players, especially when they were thrashing all of the sides in League 1 and comfortably beating the "easier" sides in The Championship.
This was definitely an opportunity missed on their part and hasn't helped them make too many friends among traditional RL fans.
A real shame and that boat may well have sailed

I must have been one of the few who liked licensing as a way to develop young British talent

London have to be on the list of distinct possibilities as its tough for a newly promoted side.

Salford might do better next year with Hastings included now. However, with a small squad they might struggle if they get hit with the same level of injuries as Hull and ourselves last season.

We are not out if the woods yet. Consistancy is our problem. I'm just praying we don't have such a bad season next year with injuries (Heffernan, Carney, Quinlan, Lawler etc) and stupidity (Minns).

Leeds are still in a transitional period, but no doubt they'll suddenly do the treble next year, its what Leeds do.

I am also going to throw in Hull here. If they start next year like the ended this, the brown stuff is gonna hit the whirly thing.

Abd a really strange one - Wigan. Whilst not in any danger next year, Wane going signifies the start of an elongated transition period.

Let's be honest, there's a large contingent of "traditional RL fans" who will automatically hate any club which is further than twenty miles from the M62.