Would be interesting to see how Toronto go in another season of the Championship. How many seasons in the second tier would they last before investors, players and fans started to jump ship?

Only thing that matters is the investor. I think fans are more likely to become bored watching a crap team in SL than a team winning week in week out at that level. Players will stay as long as they're paying as much as SL teams. So depends how long Argylle wants to prop them up for.

I think they’d be fast tracked into SL before they spent to many seasons in the championship

Ta-dah...

...oh.

Anyone who thinks there were 7,500 there yesterday needs to put down the Kool-Aid. As a Wakefield fan I know a 4k crowd when I see one.

Lol from a Wildcats fan....Wakefield average 4k...

Exactly. So I know full well what 4k people inside a rugby ground looks like and it looks an awful lot like Toronto yesterday.

Plus those around the beer tents. In N.America, people roam around

No Canadian players, no academy, no covered stands, no hospitality or corporate areas, cheap season tickets. Only so long a benefactor can run on free tickets and beer festivals. We'll see how many of them they can put on when they're getting pumped by the big boys...

Another Trojan horse thread started by someone with a Wolfpack-bashing agenda who contrives to dress it up with a semi-reasonable subject line.

Yawn.

Off to pick aphids off my roses.

Next season will be tough - either losing the majority of games in SL or walkovers in the majority of games in the Championship. The only silver lining is that the fans seem to care little who they are actually playing and care more about a good social event and the brand than anything else. As for the players, they will continue to sign up as long as they are paid enough. I don’t think many of them would earn a big contract anywhere else. A lot of journeymen.

If Toronto makes Super League in September then the club must sign some quality NRL players. At least two backs and three forwards.

What a pity that we don't know Toronto's Super League prospects right now because the club could snare Jarryd Hayne, who is off contract at the end of this year, while finally showing some top form. He is the kind of person who loves a foreign adventure, as we know. Parramatta want to retain him, and have made him an offer, so I suspect that he will make a decision to stay at Parramatta before Toronto's fate is determined.

The RFL's promotion and relegation system, with its late season outcome, is what makes it hard for newly promoted clubs to attract top quality players. That is one of many important arguments for licensing.

The crowd is pretty much irrelevant.
What's more important is the TV viewing figures and how much advertising the TV company can sell.

For sport in America/Canada many fan live so far away that they very rarely get to the games.

No it’s not because even if they knew earlier top quality players would still prefer to go to top clubs who are challenging for trophies rather than a nearly promoted one, regardless of it being English, French or Canadian.

If under a licencing system a team has a core of quality players signed before mid season of the year preceding promotion, top quality players will go there because they can sense that the club has prospects of winning silverware, even if newly promoted.

No they won’t they’ll go to clubs already up there challenging for silverware because no newly promoted club will be challenging at the top of the table in their first year or two in SL.

Why do you think that?

By contrast with your speculation the Burgess boys have expressed an interest in playing for New York if the club does eventuate.

This is the very reason why promotion and relegation no longer works. We follow the soccer system and we shouldn't! The league structure is modeled on soccer, the Challenge Cup comp is modeled on soccer's FA Cup even 'having' to use Wembley because it's 'tradional'! Tradition has cost many clubs existence!

Let soccer have its own system and culture and keep RL to it's own innovative and separate methods. For mine the NRL system is better. They are far pro-active with marketing, presentation and promotion of the code. They are 20 year ahead OFF the pitch! It's not down to money either! It's down to employing the right creative personnel who can deliver! We saw this with the late Peter Deakin who kick-started the whole Bullmainia thing. He had a shoestring budget (typical UK RL club chairman who stuck in their own stubborn ideas don't believe in marketing but Caisley bought into it) for goodness sake.

Or British...

The NrL was built on gambling revenue from the leagues clubs , so yes it is money , and the fact that they don't have a massive bigger sport already established on their doorstep

I think that based on following a variety of sports and seeing that the very top quality players don’t join newly promoted teams. Which is far better evidence than two guys saying they might join a team that doesn’t even exist yet at an unspecified time or age in their careers. Even if New York got set up in time for the 2020 season, at earliest they could make it to SL the Burgess twins will be in their 30’s and not the players they were.

I've got a better chance of playing for NYC in the SL than any of the Burgess Bros.......it's all gone very quiet on that front of late....maybe they're seeing how much it costs Argyle to buy a seat at the top table and how much he still has to throw at it thereafter? Is Perez still hanging around in Bradford?