www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... sfer-funds Not looking good for Salford. Are they at risk of going down the same route as Bradford? Is SL really the place for them in their current economic situation? My opinion is that the RFL need to step in and maybe place them in the Championship before they get into real trouble. Whats the thoughts of others on the situation there?

www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... sfer-funds Not looking good for Salford. Are they at risk of going down the same route as Bradford? Is SL really the place for them in their current economic situation? My opinion is that the RFL need to step in and maybe place them in the Championship before they get into real trouble. Whats the thoughts of others on the situation there?

Salford seems like if they do stay up next year they will implode and be in receivership before end if next season or be next years widnes. Suspect widnes are resigned to their fate and my be seeing relagation as a way out. They clearly cant live with it in the top flight.
But who will replace these two.

I'm sure Monsieur Capdouze will be along to answer that one shortly.

Salford are not a sustainable Super League club and it’s only a matter of time until they are relegated and/or again face administration.

However the suggestion that the RFL should ignore what happens on the field and relegate Salford regardless is ridiculous.

The best two Championship clubs, Toronto and Toulouse are chomping at the bit to get in and have a crack at Super League, wake up and smell the coffee.

^^ I don't think it's a ridiculous suggestion. The RFL surely have a responsibility to ensure clubs are sustainable in whichever league they play in. As you have said, Salford don't seem to be a sustainable SL club. So, is the responsible thing to let them carry on as they are and implode or step in and maybe place them in a league where they are sustainable with a chance to rebuild with a little guidance?

Are Wakefield a sustainable club? Are Huddersfield? Where do you draw the line. If Promotion and Relegation happens it must be decided on the field.

Sir Kev is already here to stick the knife in like the prize bell end he is.

Neither Wakefield or Huddersfield have gone cap in hand to supporters asking for money have they. Micheal Carter at Wakefield knows his business and cuts his cloth accordingly, and does a very good job in my opinion. Salford are in big trouble with no real leadership, limited financial income, and in a location where not a lot of people give a monkeys about Rugby League. The less said about Widnes the better.

Wakefield are sustainable purely from our own income - We have no one pouring money into the club, what comes into the club is what is spent on the squad after all bills are factored in, nothing more. Should our chairman up sticks and leave we would continue as we are.

Huddersfield are propped up by Ken and should he decide to leave the club I can imagine they would struggle in the current situation they are in with there outgoings.

It's quite extraordinary how you are still sustainable on here.

If you read the article it’s a world away from an insolvency event. A sponsor is trying to raise cash for new signings ahead of the middle 8’s.

The rfl could boot them out for that but I’d imagine they’d end up in court. Plus it sets an extraordinary precedent.

The rfl have rules for any club that goes into admin etc. That being points deductions and reductions in central funding. They should be imposed accordingly but they don’t apply here.

I think the OP actually wants to see clubs getting into financial trouble.

^^ No I don't at all, I'm a business owner myself and seeing other businesses get into financial trouble is something I never want to see. If you read my posts correctly you will see that I state that a drop down in order to rebuild could be a good option. If the RFL were a little more proactive rather than reactive then they may have been able to provide guidance a lot earlier to Salford. It may be dressed up as a sponsor trying to raise funds, but it's basically the club asking for financial help and the sponsor being the first to donate and get the ball rolling.

How you have avoided been banned is beyond me

Is it not the case that Salford are tied into one of the, if not the most expensive stadium rental agreement in the league. Or at least that is what I remember Marwan saying a few years ago.

I get the impression that they have high overheads with stadium rent plus the stadium is bemoaned by Salford fans as hard to access. Relegation/demotion may cut their income far more than it cuts their costs so I wonder if relegation would be a severe downward spiral for them. Like caslad I don't want to see any business suffer yet without the cash of Marwan I don't know how they have a long term sustainable business model.

Comedy gold

Also from the delusions of a wakey fan. A new stadium coming soon, for free.

If the RFL were even remotely concerned about Salford, they would have placed them in special measures and restricted any further signings they made.
It doesn't seem like they've done that.

Has this fundraiser been orchestrated by the club officially, or is it one of the club sponsors who are doing this? The article is unclear.

The thing about being the "next Bradford" is that the Bulls have somehow retained a sizeable core support which enables a plausible longterm route back to the top flight.

Could Salford similarly hope to attract 6,500 in the 3rd division, and if they couldn't what would be the financial basis of their recovery?

Salford dropping out could all too easily spell oblivion and that would be absolutely awful.

What is comedy gold about that? Everything I said is true is it not?

It's not so much about recovering, but finding your sustainable level.
Without a benefactor, Salford are probably (realistically) only self sufficient as a part time championship side.

With the rent they have to pay at the AJ bell that is probably true, if they were still at the willows and they had that extra income free to spend on their playing squad then perhaps they could look to compete with other clubs around the bottom end of SL.

I'd say that's the case for every club bar maybe 3 or 4.

I'm not sure it's as bad as that. Wakefield continue to demonstrate that it's possible to be competitive in SL without paying over the top for superstars and also without a benefactor's input.
I just think that in quite a few cases, clubs just need to be smarter.

Not sure what you're implying? Are Widnes dire on the field? Yes. Are Widnes running up massive debts or have a sugar daddy? No, but if you know any please let me know! We have one of the best academies in the country so not sure how it isn't sustainable.

^^ I didn't suggest Widnes aren't sustainable, but from an outsiders point of view the club looks like it is happy with just being in SL, not adding to the value of it. Investment into community work looks great, investment in youth looks great, but it has to transfer up to the first team. It seems as though all work/investment stops short of investing in the first team to me. Thats only my opinion looking from the outside, but I'm happy to be corrected.