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| You could argue that he was anyway just from his record with Bradford when he took them from the most dominant team in the league to 10th, surely there is no doubt now?
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| Most dominant team in SL lol. He took over in 2006 at which point Bradford were nobodies
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Most dominant team in SL lol. He took over in 2006 at which point Bradford were nobodies
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King James'" Yeah only reigning SL Champions and WCC winners who had made the Grand Final for 5 consecutive years.
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| While he is poor, he can’t take all the blame, they have recruited badly for years. The core group of French players they had have either retired or left, while the big money imports (most notably Bird) just aren’t doing it
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| Cunningham, Simmons, Betts, Kevin Walters and James Webster could be in for a shout.
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| Some Leeds fans will still argue it's McDermott
TBF to McNamara at Bradford, all their best players were either leaving early in his reign or left at the end of the 2005 GF (Peacock and Pryce) and any coach would struggle with the turnover of players they had.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Some Leeds fans will still argue it's McDermott
TBF to McNamara at Bradford, all their best players were either leaving early in his reign or left at the end of the 2005 GF (Peacock and Pryce) and any coach would struggle with the turnover of players they had.'" That's true but he was in charge for 4 years and they didn't make the playoffs once, having never missed the playoffs before he took over.
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| Quote ="headhunter"That's true but he was in charge for 4 years and they didn't make the playoffs once, having never missed the playoffs before he took over.'"
They did. Took over a 1/3rd into the 2006 season when they were 3rd and they finished 4th.
3rd in 2007 and 5th in 2008. Missed out in 2009 and 2010 but look at the Bradford squad then compared to 2000-2005
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"They did. Took over a 1/3rd into the 2006 season when they were 3rd and they finished 4th.
3rd in 2007 and 5th in 2008. Missed out in 2009 and 2010 but look at the Bradford squad then compared to 2000-2005'" My mistake, thought they missed out in 2007 and 2008. That arguably is even worse then as things completely fell apart while he was in charge.
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| Quote ="headhunter"My mistake, thought they missed out in 2007 and 2008. That arguably is even worse then as the squad completely fell apart while he was in charge.'"
Are you at all aware of the off field and financial problems that Bradford had?
Shows that when he had a better squad he could make the playoffs. The reason why Bradford and now Catalans went backwards have a lot more to do with the way the clubs were run by management.
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| Quote ="UllFC"While he is poor, he can’t take all the blame, they have recruited badly for years. The core group of French players they had have either retired or left, while the big money imports (most notably Bird) just aren’t doing it'"
they were nowhere near this bad before he took over, and he has had an entire off-season to at least make them look like they have been coached (currently look like a rabble with no evident plan)
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| When you see his CV and the money he will have earnt it's amazing really. Must interview well?Was rumoured to be coming to both Hull teams in recent years luckily we swerved him.Webster was really poor for us in that he isn't really a head coach but he did his best.Should never have been appointed .
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| Rob Powell
2010–12 Harlequins RL P59 W16 D1 L42.......THAT'S A 73% LOSS RATIO
Steve McNamara
2006- NOW Bradford and Catalans P152 W75 D4 L73 THAT'S A 51% LOSS RATIO
Rob Powell is without a shadow of a doubt the worst SL coach ever.....
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Are you at all aware of the off field and financial problems that Bradford had?
Shows that when he had a better squad he could make the playoffs. The reason why Bradford and now Catalans went backwards have a lot more to do with the way the clubs were run by management.'"
Catalans had absolutely no gameplan, no set moves, no ideas yeaterday. They looked like they either all ignored or forgot what the coach had coached them to do or they aren’t being coached. Absolutely disgraceful from them against us. You could throw a blanket over their attacking structure. It was the easiest defensive game I think I’ve ever seen Wire have, on a decent day weather-wise you’re taking a 60-70 points to 0 win there but the rain was terrible. Catalans were worse though.
Play like that every week and there will be many ‘0’s for Catalans and a firm 12th place at the split and 8th place in the Middle 8s. They were THAT bad!
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| Steve McNamara did a great job as England coach.
Bradford were already on the demise when he arrived due to serious financial difficulties.
Catalans were also struggling when he arrived late last season, and have continued to do so. I think their problems may be a little more serious than a change of coach can instantly rectify. Steve has his work cut out.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Steve McNamara did a great job as England Coach '"
Not sure how you came to this conclusion. The only thing he really did as England coach was beat a completely disinterested New Zealand team in 1 series. Lost every game that mattered, lost to Italy and the fiasco at the start of 2013 WC was partly down to him. And the style of rugby was boring to watch.
He always strikes me an somebody who would be an excellent number 2, but not good enough to be a number 1.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Rob Powell
2010–12 Harlequins RL P59 W16 D1 L42.......THAT'S A 73% LOSS RATIO
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2006- NOW Bradford and Catalans P152 W75 D4 L73 THAT'S A 51% LOSS RATIO
Rob Powell is without a shadow of a doubt the worst SL coach ever.....'" I will trump your Rob Powell with a totally useless Craig Sandercock. A man who managed to nearly finish our club for ever.
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| I don’t think he can be judged on Bradford, Noble must have known what was coming and jumped ship when he had the opportunity. SM took over at the start of the financial issues which was the reason for their downfall.
With England he did no better or worse than anyone else I remember.
Catalan were in a mess before he started and are still in a mess now. My first target of who to blame would be the chairman as I have serious doubts over how well that club is run.
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| England vastly improved under McNamara
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| Quote ="Beverley red"I will trump your Rob Powell with a totally useless Craig Sandercock. A man who managed to nearly finish our club for ever.'"
Well said he was the worst I have ever seen at rovers in all the years I have watched them
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| Quote ="craig hkr"When you see his CV and the money he will have earnt it's amazing really. Must interview well?Was rumoured to be coming to both Hull teams in recent years luckily we swerved him.Webster was really poor for us in that he isn't really a head coach but he did his best.Should never have been appointed .'"
Steve McNamara talks a good game.
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| Quote ="Trainman"I don’t think he can be judged on Bradford, Noble must have known what was coming and jumped ship when he had the opportunity. SM took over at the start of the financial issues which was the reason for their downfall.
With England he did no better or worse than anyone else I remember.
Catalan were in a mess before he started and are still in a mess now. My first target of who to blame would be the chairman as I have serious doubts over how well that club is run.'"
Can't be judged?
He was there for the best part of 4 seasons. If you cant judge a coach on results over that length of time, then what can/should you judge them on?
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| Quote ="luke ShipleyRed"Not sure how you came to this conclusion. The only thing he really did as England coach was beat a completely disinterested New Zealand team in 1 series. Lost every game that mattered, lost to Italy and the fiasco at the start of 2013 WC was partly down to him. And the style of rugby was boring to watch.
He always strikes me an somebody who would be an excellent number 2, but not good enough to be a number 1.'"
Agreed. So he should be able to pull out 2 victories over a series of 3 with the cream of the nations talent at his disposal.
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| Going to Catalans was a horrendous career choice for McNamara. Having a questionable coaching track record would mean you should pick your next appointment carefully. Picking Catalans, a club in turmoil in a country where you're not familiar (and I assume don't know the language) was asking for trouble from day one. He was on a hiding to nothing. That's literally what's happening. He's achieving nothing and getting a hiding for it.
I'd say you can't judge him on it, but he chose to take on the role. He knew exactly what he was getting himself in for. I could understand if he was a promoted number two, like at Bradford, but to pick this appointment was ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"England vastly improved under McNamara'"
1. Because we had an influx of better English players come through at once and a few go and play NRL
2. Because we played a series against New Zealand who left a lot of their best players at home
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