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| A lot of complaining has gone on from Leigh fans about our fixture change to a week on Thursday. Is this going to happen every time a fixture is changed next season? Changes happen regularly and to be fair sky pay tens of millions for the tv rights, I'm sure Leigh won't be complaining about taking a cut of that money.
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| Everyone complains about fixture changes, not sure why your singling Leigh out here.
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| It's a dead rubber.
More important games and sky are prying on us.
I'll be there, but the 4k quoted for a party will be minimal in comparison!
Leeds have lost thousands!
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"A lot of complaining has gone on from Leigh fans about our fixture change to a week on Thursday. Is this going to happen every time a fixture is changed next season? Changes happen regularly and to be fair sky pay tens of millions for the tv rights, I'm sure Leigh won't be complaining about taking a cut of that money.'"
Plenty of moaning from Leeds fans about the change too. What's your point?
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| Yes, whenever a fixture is rearranged to a Thursday night at less than two weeks notice (after people have sorted tickets and travel), there will be a lot of moaning.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Yes, whenever a fixture is rearranged to a Thursday night at less than two weeks notice (after people have sorted tickets and travel), there will be a lot of moaning.'"
And quite rightly so. Sky just expect fans to roll over despite having made previous arrangements.
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| I have every sympathy with Leigh fans on this, 9 days notice for them to rearrange, any travel plans, annual leave, hotel reservations,not to mention the costs involved if they incure fees etc, a lot of them and i suspect a few Leeds fans too were probably going to make a friday night of it to "celebrate" the end of season and now they can't.
Our game at Hull KR has now been moved from sunday 3pm to saturday 12:30pm, personally it doesn't affect me, but i know of lots who now can't make it due to family/work commitments, some of them were going to make a family day of it in Hull, who now can't.
So much for a family game eh?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Everyone complains about fixture changes, not sure why your singling Leigh out here.'"
It's like the new kid at school - hope their fans are ready for them to be made into scapegoats by some insecure folk
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| I'm sure the Leigh fans wont have to worry too much about fixture changes next season. It'll be the usual suspects on week in, week out.
I thought when Leeds failed to get in the top eight we would see a lot less of them - silly me.
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| It is a case of sky heaping more humiliation on Leeds by allowing a TV audience to witness them get turned over by a championship side.
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| Complaining about fans complaining for a valid reason!!
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| Will be a fun game to watch. Its not a dead rubber. Leeds wont want to lose to Leigh and Leigh are going for the unbeaten run.
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| Quote ="redex113"It is a case of sky heaping more humiliation on Leeds by allowing a TV audience to witness them get turned over by a championship side.'"
They already have, we've beaten them twice, in front of the cameras
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| If for sake of argument 3,500 Leigh fans planned to travel to Leeds for this fixture & due to the fixture date change at very late notice suddenly only 1,500 travel, then Leeds Rhinos will be down 2,000 tickets or £40,000 at the £20 I paid & have now had to have refunded.
Add to this bar sales & possibly corporate revenue loss & suddenly Leeds could be down circa £60,000.
You might then ask, what is the compensation from Sky for this loss of revenue ? If in fact there is any compensation at all.
& what about the fans who have paid for hotels, train tickets & taken annual leave ?
I took annual leave & now can't get the day off, had already bought my ticket so have been inconvenienced & as my manager has shifted my work I am now left with a days holiday that is as much use as Tits on a fish & still can't watch the match as I am working Thursday night.
How can 9 days notice ever be deemed acceptable ?
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"If for sake of argument 3,500 Leigh fans planned to travel to Leeds for this fixture & due to the fixture date change at very late notice suddenly only 1,500 travel, then Leeds Rhinos will be down 2,000 tickets or £40,000 at the £20 I paid & have now had to have refunded.
Add to this bar sales & possibly corporate revenue loss & suddenly Leeds could be down circa £60,000.
You might then ask, what is the compensation from Sky for this loss of revenue ? If in fact there is any compensation at all.
& what about the fans who have paid for hotels, train tickets & taken annual leave ?
I took annual leave & now can't get the day off, had already bought my ticket so have been inconvenienced & as my manager has shifted my work I am now left with a days holiday that is as much use as Tits on a fish & still can't watch the match as I am working Thursday night.
How can 9 days notice ever be deemed acceptable ?'"
Agree with this. I don't, in general, have too much problem with Sky choosing when the games are played. I wish they'd be better days and I get annoyed at Sky's complete lack of interest in RL ever since the TV deal was signed, but I get that we, as a sport, are virtually bankrupt in financial terms and need the Sky money.
However, 9 days notice is not just unacceptable, it's ridiculous and highlights the lack of interest almost verging on contempt shown to RL by Sky.
It shouldn't be allowed. A month should be the minimum term. Which still isn't a long time but would at least give some element of certainty.
Sky should be ashamed of themselves and the RFL should be demanding better treatment.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"& what about the fans who have paid for hotels, train tickets & taken annual leave ?
I took annual leave & now can't get the day off, had already bought my ticket so have been inconvenienced & as my manager has shifted my work I am now left with a days holiday that is as much use as Tits on a fish & still can't watch the match as I am working Thursday night.
How can 9 days notice ever be deemed acceptable ?'"
Well said, I know a few others who have gone out of there way to book time off work and booked match tickets, trains, hotels etc for this game.
Now they are inconvenienced, out of pocket and STILL won't be able to watch the match.
Not sure how a few Leigh fans being annoyed at this situation warrants a thread bashing 'moaning' Leigh fans?
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"You might then ask, what is the compensation from Sky for this loss of revenue ? If in fact there is any compensation at all.'"
The hundreds of thousands of pounds each club gets from Sky every year?
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| Quote ="DGM"The hundreds of thousands of pounds each club gets from Sky every year?'" £1.825m in fact. I know what Gary Hetherington would rather have.
Sky are the game's primary sponsors and, whilst late changes like this are unfortunate, the financial benefits Rugby League gets from the TV deal vastly outweigh these downsides.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"£1.825m in fact. I know what Gary Hetherington would rather have.
Sky are the game's primary sponsors and, whilst late changes like this are unfortunate, the financial benefits Rugby League gets from the TV deal vastly outweigh these downsides.'"
True, for £1.8m you may have to just suck it up and deal with it.
But for Championship teams it could be much more damaging.
Say if they move a big Batley home game with a large following expected to a Thursday night at 9 days notice, that could cost the club some serious money! They get no remuneration from SKY for their troubles as only SL home teams get the 15k compensation money when on TV.
For a club that has built their whole squad on 150k if they lose out on £15,000 (1000 less fans at circa £15 a ticket) then that is a huge hole financially for them to fill.
That is possibly worst case scenario but if SKY said that is what they wanted to do, would the RFL have the power (or inclination) to stop them?
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| The compensation for Leeds to have this game on Sky is £25K, the £1.8m is centrally distributed from the sky deal to all SL clubs. The selection of match compensation averages 25K from again a centrally pooled fund from SL clubs. Therefore Leeds are being compensated for 1000 travelling Leigh fans and Leeds Home fans, i know which Gary would have wanted compensation for 1000 fans or actually seeing upwards of 2500 on a Friday....
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| Quote ="Him"Agree with this. I don't, in general, have too much problem with Sky choosing when the games are played. I wish they'd be better days and I get annoyed at Sky's complete lack of interest in RL ever since the TV deal was signed, but I get that we, as a sport, are virtually bankrupt in financial terms and need the Sky money.
However, 9 days notice is not just unacceptable, it's ridiculous and highlights the lack of interest almost verging on contempt shown to RL by Sky.
It shouldn't be allowed. A month should be the minimum term. Which still isn't a long time but would at least give some element of certainty.
Sky should be ashamed of themselves and the RFL should be demanding better treatment.'"
Spot on.
Of course they should choose which games they want to show but, there does need to be some consideration for the sport and for it's spectators.
spreading games over 4 days isn't helping with attendances and TV games in front of empty stadia dont help the spot and it doesn't look good on TV.
There has to be a sensible balance between the demands of Sky vs what is good for the sport.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"A lot of complaining has gone on from Leigh fans about our fixture change to a week on Thursday. Is this going to happen every time a fixture is changed next season? Changes happen regularly and to be fair sky pay tens of millions for the tv rights, I'm sure Leigh won't be complaining about taking a cut of that money.'"
I haven't seen much complaining from leigh fans. Besides they have more important things to think about than a dead rubber against lowly Leeds.
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| Attendance of 10,556 declared at Leigh yesterday , a good atmosphere , a highly competitive game thanks to an excellent Batley team performance , looking forward to seeing similar next year
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