What the hell has happened to them. I suspect last night ended there season.

Wigan have managed to play through injuries, why not Leeds?

We could make lots of excuses but being honest we just haven't been good enough.we are we are because we deserve to be. A few things need addressing and now we have plenty of time on our hands to do that for 2017

Leeds have lost ten, we have lost four but have been really lucky in at least another four games winning in the last few minutes. Hull Away, Salford Home, Hudds Home and Away.

Wigan's ability to pull a win out of the bag has been the difference.

I think many expected Leeds to have a difficult season, but the injuries have affected them badly...

First week of May & it's looking like season over, welcome to my world

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At least their supporters can dine on the last ten, they'll be back, hopefully around 2022.

#Mac Out.

They look a poor side, we aren't much better this year, but we have had 2 fairly comfortable wins over them in the last 2 weeks.
Apart from Burrow scooting from DH, they have very little attacking threat, but he can't do it on his own.

Have Leeds had injuries? nothing been said about it on SKY and I've not heard Brian McDermott mention anything about it either

When you're having to re-sign Luke Briscoe you know things are desperate.

Honestly, it's 3 major factors combined in my opinion.
1st is the injuries. It has decimated the team. In the previous Hudds v Leeds game last week, Leeds were playing 5 players who hadn't run since the previous week. There are players playing who really shouldn't be but they have to because there's no-one else.

2nd is the training ground. It flooded at just the worst time meaning Leeds effectively had little to no preseason and still is out of use.

3rd is the loss of Peacock & Sinfield. Which wouldn't have been such a problem had McGuire not been injured along with JJB & Cuthbertson. In 2015 if you looked at the Leeds team you'd say the leaders in that team were Sinfield, McGuire, Peacock, JJB & Cuthbertson. We've been without all of those at times and only had McGuire for a couple of games. McGuire, especially is a huge loss on top of the loss of Sinfield and Peacock. To then have a 21 and 19 year old halfback partnership at the same time as all the injuries and at the same time as the loss of the training ground is a recipe for disaster. And so it's proved. Get Hardaker, Hall, Briscoe, Moon, McGuire, Cuthbertson, Falloon, Ablett, Delaney & Ward back fit and we'll do alright.

None of those things are valid enough excuses for the way we are performing, the actual results if we were competing well then fair enough, but are are playing poor across the board and clearly being coached poorly. We have to try something and we either start shipping some players out now or the coach.

Before the season I predicted one of the big boys would do a Chelsea. Turns out its Leeds. Low league position, poor away form, player of the year playing poorly

You think those things aren't important? I'm struggling to see how you can reach that conclusion. Why on earth would we ship players out now? Which coach would you get to replace McDermott? Would the new coach possess some kind of magic to miraculously cure the injured players? Can this coach also magic up repairs to Kirkstall? Can this coach also magically cure the effects of not having had a training ground in pre-season?

We have to get through this period, get players back fit, get a training ground back and we'll do ok. We're only 3 players different from the team that won the treble. The team is fine, the most successful coach in this club's history is also fine. Hold our nerve, work hard and we'll be fine. People massively underestimate the effect of players playing injured and the effect of little to no preseason. It's huge.

I think losing Sinfield and Peacock is a bigger loss than anyone could imagine, Leeds still have some talented players, but some very average players, who would have been managed by those 2 on the field. without them, they appear to have no one to bond the team together.

I reckon Leeds would have been 2 or 3 more wins for the better IF those 2 blokes were still playing.

I think a lot of that comes down to where the injuries are, rather than just "injuries" as a catch-all reason/excuse. Leeds currently have a 19 year old and a 21 year old in the two key pivot positions and, whilst Liley in particular has been impressive, he is making naive decisions. Aiton has been a massive loss as well and his replacement, Faloon, has barely been fit.

The pack has also been very weak this season, which is probably a combination of factors including fitness, access to the training ground and the loss of two key props. I think that weakness up front has put more pressure on the rest of the team and, if you look at the performances of the likes of Watkins, Hardaker and Hall in particular this year, it's really showing. Those three in particular are having to carry a lot of weight on their shoulders and their confidence is clearly shot.

Same thing happened with us at the start of the season, which a lot of our fans, couldn't see, or wouldn't accept. it wasn't so much the actual injuries, but the disruptions these caused throughout the team every week, i think we had 6 different full backs in our first 8 games and 6 different half back pairings, our left side was different for 7 successive games,only Jerry and Leroy were able to keep some sort of partnership together for more than 2 games.
In a team game like RL, more than most, disruptions to these mini teams hit teams hard when they are changed every week.

It's Wigan 2006 all over again.

Let's hope Leeds don't go down the same route Wigan took that year otherwise they'll be in bigger bother

Oh I dunno, I think Dennis Moran would be a great signing for them.

All teams go through an injury crisis. We did last season and it seemed to go unnoticed by the media.

Did Wigan win the treble in 2005?

Still superleagues most successful team by a country mile. They will bounce back

Regards

King James

The more hysterical Leeds fans are calling for McDermott's head; but they were doing the same in 2011 and 2014 so I think we can safely ignore them.

Whilst I accept most of the arguments as to mitigating circumstances, the biggest concern is the lack of form of several the few remaining established first teamers. McDermott paints it as overcompensating for the loss of their teammates but I'm not convinced (and the downward trajectories of Watkins and Hall were well established through the back end of last season).

Meh! Get some bodies back and we'll have a crack at the Top 8. If we don't make it there's some tasty West Yorkshire derbies to look forward to.

As a KR supporter I had hoped Peacock joining us would instill some of the Leeds Rhinos into our club? I got my wish, half the squad injured, out of the cup & near the bottom of the league.

No matter how deep we are trouble we wouldn't cheat to save our SL lives.