Out of the twelve current S.L. clubs, who as a supporter thinks their club has had it the roughest over, let’s say the last Thirty Years?

The reason I’ve excluded many clubs (and Bradford fans need not apply, as I’d swap their Roller Coaster for mine, in a heartbeat) is that I know it has been worse for you, but seriously?

Is there another club in S.L. that’s had it as bad as Wakefield Trinity?

If there is someone who moans about their lot regarding the team they support & it’s worse than mine, I’d like to hear your genuine reason as to why you think you’ve had it worse?

I'd say closest bag o e to you lot would be salford.

I’d tend to agree, I believe neither set of fans have witnessed a major trophy final in that time, at least they have a decent ground & a chance to dream, so only a fairly close second.

But if I had put the last forty years & they’d have walked it, the seventies was the last time Salford had success in living memory.

Whilst Wakefield have had it pretty tough you've made it into the play-offs a couple of times, and won numerous vital matches to avoid relegation.

Guess Huddersfield fans have had it quite rough, stuck at the bottom of the SL table for a good few years, the merger, relegation, and now, wilst substantially improved, gaining a reputation for always just falling short of winning a trophy.

I would say, for sheer size, expectation and fan base of the club that Hull FC with just 1 CC and plenty of false dawns to show for the last 30 years is pretty disappointing.

Yeah wakefield have had it really bad. Allowed into superleague despite having a ground that didn't meet criteria - after years of NFP clubs being turned down. Going bust twice without having any real sanctions against them - certainly not having the other teams in the league share out half of their funding. I won't mention crusaders pulling out as the idea that wakefield were going out otherwise was just a rumour. As we know RFL don't do anything to stop false rumours for example the idea Bradford had secret payments to keep them going - since proves to be load of garbage in the high court. Even now relegation and promotion are back but its done in such a way that no one will go down/up.

All you can moan about really is Eric France going bust but that was tempered by your share of Bradford's funding the following year. Plus you were able to cut spending to balance the books as the wheels falling off at Bradford meant you even made the play offs that year - due to the points deduction.

We have had it bad but I think that is only because we expect so much, we have still been to 4 finals in 10 years, granted it was a bit sp between the mid-80s and 2005 but you know. If you want a bad time take a trip to our friends across the river. First cup final for 30 years and they get slaughtered 50-0, up and down relegation wise, not exactly the best ground (although it is getting better, I will give them that).

Write a blues song about it. It might be a mega hit & you could buy Wakey out of their woes. "Woke up this mornin', Smithy woz gon & left me,...."

Leigh, London, Featherstone, Castleford, Widnes, Sheffield, Gateshead, Blackpool, Keighley, Halifax, South Wales based Crusaders fans, Bradford, Swinton there are many can moan. It's just Wakefield fans seem to enjoy it!

I see your point, but it the last 30 years I have seen us win 2 trophies (Not one), play at numerous finals and semi finals and win a few play off games, while that isn't as good as Bradford, Saints, Warrington, Wigan and Leeds, I am sure that most clubs would swap that for what they have seen the last 30 years or so.

Wigan

Why? Because no-one likes us

There's loads of clubs had it a lot tougher than WTW over the years.
A better question would be - what have they brought to the competition over the last 17 years in SL? Survival ever year as their sole aim? Avoiding the million pound game?
Sky certainly aren't getting their monies worth from WTW - they avoid picking them as much as they can.

Are you seriously including Bradford in that list?

Would you really swap all those fantastic memories of Grand Finals, W.C.C’s & C.C finals just to bump along the bottom of the S.L. year after year?

I’ve already stated there’s loads of clubs who’ve had it much worse, Doncaster, Batley, Oldham et al, but as I roam the S.L. boards I find it highly amusing when reading other clubs plights.

Last 30 years you say ?

Well 30 years ago Huddersfield played in front of their lowest ever crowd - 303, in a ramshackled falling apart not fit for purpose ground with half it's main stand cordoned off and without two ha'penny's to rub together.
In the following 10 years they we're almost closed down due to financial difficulties twice, only saved late on by people who genuinely had a love for the club, left their ground without a proper goodbye or anything.
We we're thrown in to Super League probably before we were ready, thus resulting in us finishing bottom 4 years running and not being allowed to go down and rebuild the club as we wanted to - therefore losing most of the fanbase we had managed to build up in the pretty stable mid 90's.
Cajoled into a merger no one on either side wanted, losing us more fans and even to this day having to suffer jibes about it.

We are slowly making progress on and off the field, even now we are a club to ridiculed because of our crowds (how many other clubs have had to build from 303 ?), the way we always seem to 'bottle it' etc, but let's remember, while most sets of fans have enjoyed relative stability in 30 years and some lucky sets of fans have never had to endure seeing their club outside the top division struggling for their life,and indeed in some cases not winning a trophy for a couple of years is seen as a dark period for some clubs not one club has had to come from as deep down as Huddersfield, it's been bloody hard supporting this club in the last 30 years but for some of us it will hopefully be worth the wait soon !!

So i'll say my club, Huddersfield

Admittedly we haven't brought as much to the party as some but here's some off the top of my head:

Ellis & Westwood
Relegating Cas twice and setting up the whole concept of a "million pound game"
2 years ago the 7 match winning run which took us into the playoffs
The fact that we survive every year with the lowest budget is a good story in itself, while other clubs go up and down, Cas, Hudds, Bradford etc. We often survive on the final day of the season, 4 times to my reckoning so far, 5 if you include MPG.

We are a great proving ground for out of favour players to prove themselves and then move on to top sides- Brough, Aiton, Amor, Tautai, Ferres etc.

Id say that at the very least we are a much more interesting club than the likes of HKR, Widnes, Hull and Salford (Until Koukash)

When Bradford get promoted I will have seen absolutely everything it is possible for a British RL fan to see. I will be the most experienced RL fan in the country.

I appreciate where Huddersfield have come from & gone though over the said period, however surely the fundamental point of supporting any team is to witness them winning stuff?

In the last few years you’ve seen your club lift the L.L.S, participate in a C.C. final & be just eighty minutes from a G.F, as opposed to Wakefield who have managed just one C.C. semi in all that time, close but no cigar.

But winning things from where we have come from compared to even Wakefield who were seen as a big club by our fans back in the dark days is even more remarkable.

So you think Wakefield Trinity have had a worse last 30 years than Huddersfield based on the fact that we've done pretty well in the last 4/5 years after coming out of all the crap i've just described ?
maybe the original post should have stated last 5 years instead of 30 !!

for almost 20 years of those years Wakefield were considered a big club to our fans as were most current super league teams, teams we only thought we'd play if drawn against them in cups.

Indeed, & hopefully you will see a major trophy lifted in the next few years & I’m sure your elation will be exquisite, whereas the best I can hope for is staying up via the M.P.G.

Wasn't that long ago when finishing 2nd from bottom in SL was a major triumph for us ....we've had it tough for a long, long time...only the hard work and patience of everyone at the club have seen us turn the corner....whichever way you look at it Huddersfield have had a worse 30 years than Wakefield !!

Plus Ken Davy's deep pockets

That has helped, but that's what i was referring to when i said patience paid off, Ken could have walked away years ago especially since the club makes no money back for him....he didn't he vowed to make this club great again and is slowly doing so.

Well I look at it in terms of success.

As I have already stated, I.M.O. seeing the captain of your club lift a major trophy aloft is the pinnacle as a fan.

The elation felt must be delightful & not only makes up for all the awful years gone by, but lives in the memory, in readiness for any rubbish years to come.

Are you really saying you’d swap your sporting experiences for mine?

Wires have been on a roller coaster ride over the last 30 years....lots of downs mixed in with some good ups. Stability and a new stadium have been the bedrock on which the ups have been built....critical to success. We are very lucky to have Simon Moran on-board.....very lucky indeed. Peter Deakin's involvement was massive as well...men with vision (and deep pockets).

We nearly went under....very very nearly. Relegation was a real possibility at times also. The good times seem better somehow after getting through the bad times. Supports are the constant....every club needs them and should do their upmost to keep them.