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| Why didn't the Salford player attempt to catch the ball from the penalty.
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| What a way to win a game though, superb composure !!
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| Hard pressed to see a better drop goal than that! Sidestep to the right and knows exactly where he's slotting it just as the hooter goes. Considering he just missed a penalty from a similar position it shows how great that kick was. What a great game!
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| 2nd half was how all SL matches should be. Great viewing.
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| first half was crap, both defences poor and Hicks didnt help matters.enjoyed the last half hour,Warrington upped their game and the drop goal from Sandow on the last play was a piece of class.
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| Very exciting but felt a bit like touch rugby.
Defence was appalling and discipline was shocking. 1st half especially. Poor game from the ref also.
Watched the 1st NRL game this morning. 7 pens all match and the defence was a million miles ahead of that game tonight.
2nd half was much better and no complaints on the entertainment front. Brilliant TV, fantastic ending! Quality was badly lacking in several areas though IMO.
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| Great end to a bad defensive game. Alot of criticism for Hicks but I didn't think he did too bad considering both teams were pushing there luck.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Why didn't the Salford player attempt to catch the ball from the penalty.'"
Unbelievable wasn't it, a complete mental switch off. Sandow still shouldn't be kicking that from there in those conditions however, that was ridiculous skill.
Having said that I was again dismayed by the lack of quality on show however, particularly defensively. It's no surprise our sides have been embarassed by the NRL sides, it's unbelievable how poor SL teams are defensively. I don't know what the cause is, whether it's a lack of quality in the coaching, preparation or simply that the players aren't up to it. Whatever is causing it, you don't have to do anything in SL to score, two passes and a straightening up is enough.
I can't see anyone stopping Warrington this year. They are like Saints of ten years ago. They've got a great mix of youth (Currie in particular who looks the best player in SL at the moment), experience and one of those gold-dust, rocking horse poop rarities, an exiled world class back. It's going to take some mean anti-rugby to stop them this year.
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| I can't see anyone stopping Warrington this year.'"
Wow. Bold statement . They were 30 12 down to a decent , not brilliant salford side. A more composed, disciplined and tougher side eases past wire tonight.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Why didn't the Salford player attempt to catch the ball from the penalty.'"
Maybe he thought it would be a tap on the twenty .
He appeared to be on his own on the goal line, it seemed totally bizarre not to put a few players back.
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| Salford should do Ok this season, they'll be gutted at losing that lead, but should be Super 8's, not middle.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Salford should do Ok this season, they'll be gutted at losing that lead, but should be Super 8's, not middle.'"
Salford and Widnes both look to have stepped up this year. Who do you think will join HKR and Wakey in the middle 8s?
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| As a wire fan I was disappointed by the performance, sure we turned it on with 20 mins left, and the Sandow drop goal was just ridiculous skill. We're 4 from 4 but I'm still to see us put in an 80 minute performance yet. Credit to Salford, they are a different beast this year. Despite the sin binning for Currie, I thought he was huge tonight, the kick chase when he came back on was epic and he is a danger every time he has the ball. Best Wire youth product since a certain Mr Sculthorpe.
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| Quote ="Towns88"A more composed, disciplined and tougher side eases past wire tonight.'"
Teams such as? Leeds are having this year off, Giants have a decent 17 but a shambles of a squad, Saints are mess. Wigan will no doubt be the only challenge to Warrington, but they don't have anywhere near the depth or quality Warrington do.
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| Ah the Wire for Superleague from Saddened has come early this year!
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| The difference in defence between Wigan and the Eels against the Broncos was enormous.
I do not understand how full time pros with professional coaches cannot play to a structure for more than one tackle a game. Poorer athletes are understandable, but regulation plays seem beyond most SL teams. Perhaps not helped by the generally rubbish defence.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"The difference in defence between Wigan and the Eels against the Broncos was enormous.
I do not understand how full time pros with professional coaches cannot play to a structure for more than one tackle a game. Poorer athletes areas understandable, but regulation plays seem beyond most SL teams. Perhaps not helped by the generally rubbish defence.'"
Proper tackling is a dying art, coaches/players still can't fathom that a bit of arm flapping up top isn't going to bring down the modern rugby league player with the hugely increased upper body strength to get away from that.
For all the stopping the offload this type of tackle is supposed to prevent (it rarely does) players makes easy yards/break yackles even with 2 and three 'tacklers' in attendance.
Watching Hull last Thursday we couldn't tackle a hot dinner. You commit one player to leg tackle and though they might offload it's still 12v12, whilst it's not always easy or how it works far too often arm flapping by big forwards allows easy metres AND offloads. It's bloody pathetic to watch!
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| Not seen anything from Warrington yet to suggest they're a shoo in. Let's not forget that against Leeds they were second best all night, rode their luck and we're awarded a try that should never have been (sounds a lot like last night). Two ref assisted wins is not the same as 'finding a way to win' or whatever. No doubt the quality is there, but that first try last night gets sent up as no try and it stays as no try.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"Not seen anything from Warrington yet to suggest they're a shoo in. Let's not forget that against Leeds they were second best all night, rode their luck and we're awarded a try that should never have been (sounds a lot like last night). Two ref assisted wins is not the same as 'finding a way to win' or whatever. No doubt the quality is there, but that first try last night gets sent up as no try and it stays as no try.'"
I think we are far too early to say anything definitive about any team! We have seen plenty of times before that a club doing well over the first 6-8 weeks doesn't win them anything. Just as it is hard to see the bottom two being Leeds-Huddersfield.
Not to mention the story that injuries could play. All it takes is a couple of players to go down for a significant period for it all to change!
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| Quote ="jimlav"I think we are far too early to say anything definitive about any team! We have seen plenty of times before that a club doing well over the first 6-8 weeks doesn't win them anything. Just as it is hard to see the bottom two being Leeds-Huddersfield.
Not to mention the story that injuries could play. All it takes is a couple of players to go down for a significant period for it all to change!'"
Last night Warrington played without the spine of 6,9 and 13 (Gidley, Clark and Westwood).
With those back in, the defence and attack is much improved.
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| Salford tries coming off being piggy backed up field yet somehow people think the ref was helping Wire ???
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Salford tries coming off being piggy backed up field yet somehow people think the ref was helping Wire ???'"
Both sides scored plenty of points off consecutive penalties. Wire got three in a row IIRC that took them the length of the field in the first half for one of their tries.
Credit to Hicks, lot of whistle but he was at least being consistent throughout the game. He set down the standards early on, and neither team were prepared to stick to them and listen to what they were being told.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Both sides scored plenty of points off consecutive penalties. Wire got three in a row IIRC that took them the length of the field in the first half for one of their tries.
Credit to Hicks, lot of whistle but he was at least being consistent throughout the game. He set down the standards early on, and neither team were prepared to stick to them and listen to what they were being told.'"
Agreed. although Hicks was a bit whistle happy, he was consistent throughout the game, which is what most fans moan about. I thought he also dealt with the game well, by sin binning the two players (Although Currie maybe a bit harsh) and it stopped the game for boiling over.
I thought it was a good game and draw would have been the fairer result, but that's the difference between a team going to the top 4 and a team going for the top 8, just a little bit smarter and more clinical.
IMO Salford lost the game, by giving away two penalties when they had the ball, also should have kicked at least one drop goal, i would also be very disappointed with the FB who made no attempt to catch the ball from Sandows penalty.
Both teams have started well and look like top 8 team, along with Widnes, if these two finish in the top 8, who drops out?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Agreed. although Hicks was a bit whistle happy, he was consistent throughout the game, which is what most fans moan about. I thought he also dealt with the game well, by sin binning the two players (Although Currie maybe a bit harsh) and it stopped the game for boiling over.
I thought it was a good game and draw would have been the fairer result, but that's the difference between a team going to the top 4 and a team going for the top 8, just a little bit smarter and more clinical.
IMO Salford lost the game, by giving away two penalties when they had the ball, also should have kicked at least one drop goal, i would also be very disappointed with the FB who made no attempt to catch the ball from Sandows penalty.
Both teams have started well and look like top 8 team, along with Widnes, if these two finish in the top 8, who drops out?'"
I might have spoken to soon about Salford
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