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| On that no try.... Silverwood saw the obstruction but let play go on..... before deciding he saw no try when going to video ref. Surely as he called no Try he saw obstruction earlier in the play so why did he not call a penalty then??? If Leeds were to get tackled it would have been play on Leeds.
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| It happens every week!
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| Well done Joel Tomkins, saved his side 6 points with a swift move to the side and flinging his arms up.
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| Should have been a try. Yes Watkins went through the line but obstructed no one. Tompkins went out of his way to milk it and video ref fell for it. Very little different than the Cas try against Leeds a few weeks ago and that was given, they may as well just toss a coin than have video ref.
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| remember when Huddersfield scored against Leeds with Huby stood in the line? weird how that was a try
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| The traditional obstruction rule coin flip.
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| Can someone please explain how, when the 2015 interpretation says a defender must be impeded for it to be obstruction, it wasn't a try?
Joel Tomkins is to one side of Kallum Watkins. The lead runner makes no contact with him, yet he just stops and throws his hands up when he realises he's made a bad read and is out of position.
2014 that is undoubtedly an obstruction, no question. 2015, under the interpretation as I understand it, it blatantly isn't.
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| Silverwood once again showing what a bent inept ref he is.
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| Silverwood has had it in for Leeds since Keith Senior called him out for being crap, it's another classic performance on his part
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| What's Aiton's obsession with tackling players before they've caught the ball?
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| Not content with ruling out a perfectly good try, Wigan pick up another off the back of a knock-on given the wrong way and win the game off a borderline penalty. Classic Silverwood. That he's supposedly one of the best refs in the country is a triumph for mediocrity.
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| Quality quote from Burrow
"Well you don't mind if you lose to a better team but the manner of thst defeat is disappointing"
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| Never mind the last minute penalty, which was correct, he was quite poor throughout but nevertheless, great game.a draw would have been fair result but not to be for us.As a Leeds fan im still upbeat for rest of year.Watkins,Moon and Hall were quiet tonight and we still got so close.we have Hardaker and Briscoe to come into the backline too.
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| Can't have Leeds sewing the top spot up before the super-duper 8's, I wouldn't have begrudged any Leeds fans not making the trip over with this in mind. It was so blatantly in the run-up who was going to win this one even with Leeds' best efforts.
Silverwood's body language in awarding that obstruction penalty, he couldn't wait to give it!
I don't want him reffing any of the CC semis, please no.
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| at the keyboard 'experts'.
Quote ="LeedsDave"Quality quote from Burrow
"Well you don't mind if you lose to a better team but the manner of thst defeat is disappointing"'"
Especially for Paul Aiton.
2 points in the bag.
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| Quote ="Cronus"icon_lol.gif at the keyboard 'experts'.
Especially for Paul Aiton.
2 points in the bag.
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The manner of your posts, suggests, deep down, you know who the better team is and was.
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| by the letter of the law it was obstruction, McGuire, ran behind Watkins, but for me Tomkins could have made the tackle.
Aiton though, what a dumbass!
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| But what I still dont understand it Silverwood sent it to the video ref as NO TRY as he saw an Obstruction. If he saw an obstruction why did he not blow?? If Leeds would have been tackled it would have been play on Leeds even though he saw an obstrucion.....
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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"The manner of your posts, suggests, deep down, you know who the better team is and was.'"
Nice try, but I'm happy that for all of Leeds' offloads and good play, Wigan did enough to win.
Enjoyed that game very much. All the more enhanced by the outrage on here.
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| Quote ="meast"by the letter of the law it was obstruction, McGuire, ran behind Watkins, but for me Tomkins could have made the tackle.
Aiton though, what a dumbass!'"
...and what law is this?
Just because someone runs behind a player does not automatically mean that there was an obstruction. It is only obstruction when, in the opinion of the ref, the defending team has been materially disadvantaged.
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| Quote ="Cronus"icon_lol.gif Nice try, but I'm happy that for all of Leeds' offloads and good play, Wigan did enough to win.
Enjoyed that game very much. All the more enhanced by the outrage on here.
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Your team won, congratulations.
However the outrage is pointed firmly at Silverwood more than Wigan to be honest, it's shocking what he got away with out there tonight.
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| The knock on was by far the worse one. Wigan got a lucky win, I'd definitely feel hard done to if I were a Leeds supporter. Funny though, Wane says something disrespectful and it's a big deal, Burrow says something and it's a really good thing, how does that work?
I'd say a draw was fair.
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| I thought it probably was obstruction, Tomkins made a meal of it but I think he was close enough to attempt a tackle had Watkins not been there. Agree with the OP though, if Silverwood thought it was obstruction he should have stopped it there and then. Unless it was the touch judge that told him it was no try.
As an aside I thought Cuthbertson was outstanding. His ability to offload is as good as I've seen. It's rare that Sky MoM goes to someone on the losing team, but he was the best player on the pitch for my money.
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| I openly admit I'm glad Leeds lost.
Also there would have been tries probably given if the ridiculous video referee system was eliminated.
Just let the match officiate, and make errors just like the Leeds and Wigan players did.
Oh and the reason why Leeds lost!
They didn't score more points than the opposition and Ablett played in his stupid mode which is a shame because when he wants to play he is very good.
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| Craig Huby, and Kevin Penny have both been awarded tries against Leeds this season despite an obstruction "to the letter of the law"... It seems to me, it's a flip a coin job.
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