So that's our international involvement (as good as) over with. All we have left to do is look forward to next season. Hull have announced their squad numbers. If the half backs can click I think it's a handy looking squad. Plenty of good youngsters which is good to see.

1. Jamie Shaul
2. Tom Lineham
3. Setaimata Sa
4. Kirk Yeaman
5. Fetuli Talanoa
6. Leon Pryce
7. Marc Sneyd
8. Mickey Paea
9. Danny Houghton
10. Liam Watts
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Mark Minichiello
13. Joe Westerman
14. Iafeta Paleaaesina
15. Chris Green
16. Jordan Thompson
17. Dean Hadley
18. THE FAITHFUL
19. Steve Michaels
20. Curtis Naughton
21. Richard Whiting
22. Josh Bowden
23. James Cunningham
24. Jack Logan
25. Jansin Turgut
26. Jack Downs
27. Jordan Abdull
28. Brad Fash
29. Harry Tyson-Wilson
30. Bobby Tyson-Wilson
31. Callum Lancaster
32. Jordan Rankin

Looks like a big year for the youngsters at Hull FC. Beyond 1-17 (and possibly included in it) looks weak. Not many I, as an outside, would place a whole amount of faith in. looks like a team that will struggle to get into the top 8.

There's certainly a lot of faith being put in youth. On the whole though I think we should be much improved on last year. Some of the players I'm most looking forward to watching are outside the 17. Naughton, Lancaster, Logan, Abdull, Tyson Wilson have all had a taste of Superleague and should kick on. Watch out for Jansin Turgut aswell.

I'd love for Hull to really emerge as a top side because it would be great for the game but looking at that squad it looks a way off tbh. The kids are good players but the quality to play around them looks to be lacking.

Hope I'm wrong.

I have no delusions of us winning trophies or anything. We are capable of winning the CC with a good draw but certainly not Superleague. I just want to see the club progress. We are trying to follow the Wigan model of promoting youth to the first team and supplementing with quality. It will take a few years to bear fruit but I just want to see us going the right way, and whilst we are lacking in some areas there are also some very good players there.

Salford squad to date: (Although it's been mentioned that another Prop may be coming in) in no particular order.

1. Locke
2. Ben-Jones-Bishop
3. Sau
4. Mason Caton-Brown
5. Greg Johnson
6. Chase
7. Dobson
8. D. Griffin
9. Liam Hood
10. Lama Tasi
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Weller Hauraki
13. Gareth Hock
14. Theo Fages
15. Carl Forster
16. Jordan Walne
17. Tony Puletua
18. Adrian Morley
19. Jason Walton
20. Andrew Dixon
21. Brad England
22. Niall Evalds
23. Jon Ford
24. Matty Gee
25. Kieran Gill
26. George Griffin
27. Josh Griffin
28. Matt Groat
29. Tommy Lee
30. Luke Menzies
31. Adam Walne

Average age is just under 25 and is offset by Morley's significant years. With the promotion of youngsters (Eight of that squad has come through the Academy) and the purchase of a number of other younger players gives the team a different dynamic than the season gone. The team has serious pace and a very big pack. How well we do this season coming will be down to how Chase and Dobson click, and whether Hood steps up from the lower leagues or Fages makes that spot his own. No recognised 'Name' at hooker is still a worry, although I'd like to see Chase moved there with fages and Dobson at HB if we struggle.

As for prospects, well if we can build on the performances that we made at the back of this season gone who knows? We could equally be pretty mediocre, and that's where Salford's problem lies. Being able to be consistent.

Got 6 players who will come in if any of the 1-17 are injured who have SL or NRL experience so the experience is there...some of the youngsters gained experience last season and will be better for it.We matched teams for metres made last season but was bloody clueless in the opposing 20,we now have the Hals to give us the options....we should make the 8

The squad isn't that way off but it isn't going to happen overnight.The kids are all academy internationals and have tasted S/L action.......never did you any harm putting your kids in and how will you fare nxt season as your Quality to play rd your kids is disappearing season in season out.

Some exciting players in the backs and should go better than this year. Props are lacking for me, and as you've mentioned there's not a proper hooker in there.

Where's Liam Hood?

Hall
Owen
Lyne
Collis
Riley
Sammut
T Smith
Anderson
McShane
Scruton
Kirmond
Lauitiiti
Washbrook
Godinet
Kirke
Paea
Simon
D Smith
Ashurst
Ryan
Malloy
Crowther
Jowitt
Johnston
Anakin
Trout

At number 9 on the list.





Not sure what your point is.

Zak Hardaker
Tom Briscoe
Kallum Watkins
Joel Moon
Ryan Hall
Danny Mcguire
Rob Burrow
Kylie Leuluai
Paul Aiton
Jamie Peacock
Jamie Jones-Buchanan
Carl Ablett
Kevin Sinfield
Stevie Ward
Brett Delaney
Liam Sutcliffe
Mitch Achurch
Brad Singleton
Adam Cuthbertson
Jordan Baldwinson
Mason Tonks
Alex Foster
Jimmy Keinhorst
Adam Yates
Josh Walters
Robbie Ward
Thomas Minns
Robbie Mulhern
Luke Briscoe

I need to go to bed I think!

We'll still have 6 internationals from today around them as well as the likes of McIlorum and Bowen and other guys who've played in Grand Finals, CC finals and a WCC.

It's not a case of measuring us against you though. Your a big club and a successful Hull will make the game stronger but it seems a while off at the moment. We had a spell around 2005 where our squad was chocked full of promising youngsters but the quality around them was poor and it harmed their development. There's a raft of top kids on that list but they need bedding in slowly and patience to be shown. It's a high pressure environment at Hull and people are desperate for success now not tomorrow.

I just hope they cope and if they do maybe they could achieve success quicker then expected.

Not sure what you are getting at with this. Wigan have lost Green and Goulding from last years squad. Goulding wasn't getting a game (Sarginson and Gelling the two centres with Thornley injured almost the entire season) and Green has Williams, Hampshire and Powell all vying to replace him.

Even still, its not as if Wigan only had 1 or 2 good years with youth. Haven't they won the u20 competition something silly like 6 out of 7 years? Given this what reason would you give to suggest, as you do, quality is disappearing year on year from Wigans youth players.

We have brought in Minichello and Pryce who will provide more experience to go with Ellis,Yeaman and Houghton who are all seasoned pros and quality players.We also have a proper H/b pairing for the 1st time in ages that should settle us down a lot,as for the kids...we have brought them in,let them have a taste then take them out..a good example being Logan,made his debut against you in that battering was taken out and brought back at the end and held his own and scored 2 good tries v Leeds,Bowden has improved massively,Hadley is progressing nicely,Abdull didn't look out of place at all until he got took out by Hauraki cheaply,Lancaster scored for fun and we have
Tyson Wilson brothers and Jansin Turget in the wings so we should be ok.Some fans want success today but I can see where we are going and this is a outstanding crop of youngsters who will serve us well.

I meant you have lost experienced 1st teamers over the few yrs and you replace them with young ones but will it finally catch up with you....and are the 3 you mentioned ready to direct your team rd the park........not seen a lot of the 3 mentioned apart from on sky and isn't 1 a hooker and another a full back.Powell is the only proper H/b and he looks better at hooker.

I think he means the players playing alongside our youngsters after I said Hull haven't got enough quality to guide their juniors.

In terms of us Greens a loss but our pack will be much stronger and that young centre pairing have developed ten fold these past few months. Our big hopes in terms of the juniors are Williams and Hampshire. They'll play on the back of a big, experienced pack containing guys like Lockers and McIlorum and a prop rotation of about 7 or 8 first team experienced players who'll give them every chance.

Looking at Salfords and wWakeys squads I would say we are stronger than those 2 and dare I say Leeds Squad as well......Leeds 1-17 is superb but who will fill in for them if injured...they have a lot of unheard of players in that squad.....will they be better prepared than ours?

Hampshire is a 6 and Williams and Powell are 7's traditionally from their time in the academy's but all have played in a few positions in the first team to date.

I've been worrying about losses catching up with us for years but somehow we manage to keep rolling on. We lost Richards and Burgess emerged, we lost Finch and Leuluai and Green and Smith came in, we've lost numerous forwards and others move in to their positions without much fuss.

I think Shaun Wane deserves great credit.

All 3 are H/B. Hampshire may end up at FB, but he has always been a H/B.

In terms of them being ready to lead us round the field only time will tell. But Wigan will still have Smith and O'loughlin to take most of the control of the team. Wigan did win 10 from 15 (9 from 13 in the league) with williams or powell at H/B last season.

looking at hull fc, salford and leeds, all have a strong 1-17, after that its all unkown, fc and leeds blood youngsters last season and before so their back up should be stronger this season

salford and fc are quite capable of making the 8 along with the usual suspects

going to be quite intersting who doesnt, may see a shock?

Most obvious thing to say about these squad lists is that there are certainly no world-beaters about.... Also from those squads listed on here, outside of the 1-17, there is plenty of mediocrity.

Again, being pretty obvious, most supporters will have high hopes for their own sides after seeing these squad lists.... As a Wire fan, I don't see much to suggest that we won't be challenging for trophies - However, similarly, non- Wire fans will rightly see our squad and think we are very beatable too.

As the salary cap was designed to do, we now have a relatively competitive competition, unfortunately because the cap limit hasn't budged for years, the league is also becoming more and more mediocre, standard wise, as the years roll on.

Lomax
Makinson
Turner
Jones
Swift
Burns
Walsh
Masoe
Roby
Amor
LMS
Wilkin
Thompson

Hohaia
Vea
Walmsley
Richards

Wellens
Dawson
Percival
Hewitt
Flanaghan
Greenwood
Savelio
Walker

Charnock
Ashworth
Fozard
Hand
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We have cap space (or I at least hope so, losing 12 and signing 2!) and there have been a few murmurs of players still to come in - nothing certain but Bryce Gibbs has been mentioned, which would be good just to take pressure off Richards shoulders, and would help with rotations a bit. I think if there weren't more movement to come from us we'd of announced the squad with today's shirt launch...

Initial impression: very inexperienced in the back end but plenty of talent there. Short a pack man but hopefully the rumours are true...