FB: Sam Tomkins, Zak Hardaker
WG: Tom Briscoe, Ryan Hall, Tommy Makinson
CE: Kallum Watkins, Jack Reed, Michael Shenton

SO:Gareth Widdop
SH: Trent Hodkinson
SO/SH/LF: Kevin Sinfield,

LF: Shaun O'Loughlin
SR: Ben Westwood, Carl Ablett, Elliot Whitehead, Brett Ferres
PR: George Burgess, James Graham, Luke Burgess, Alex Walmsley, Eorl Crabtree
HK: James Roby, Darryl Clark,

UT: Rob Burrow

Standby Options: Chris Hill, Kyle Amory, Lee Mossop, Chris Heighington, Michael McIlorum, Leroy Cudjoe, Josh Charnley.

Craig Huby ahead of Crabtree, Hill, Mossop and Amor.

Whilst i agree with Widdop at stand off i would certainly have Kevin Brown as backup, been outstanding this season thus far and a much better option than having Sinfield operate there. He's great for Leeds but shouldn't be near the international arena.

Tomkins, Hardaker/Lomax
Hall, Briscoe, Makinson
Watkins, Reed, Shenton
Widdop, Hodgkinson, Sneyd
Graham (c) G Burgess, Hill, Walmsley, Taylor
Roby, Lunt/ Clark (oh the wonders of having competition!)
Whitehead, Ablett, Ferres, Westwood
O'Loughlin, Westerman

If Sinfield shouldn't be "near" the international arena, you'd have to pick from a squad of about 8 to play for England based on actual performances at that level.

One area that's starting to look a long way behind Aus/NZ is second row. Not an impressive cast at all.

Agree with 22 of the names but, I'd leave out Rob Burrow and Eorl Crabtree, and include Jonny Lomax and Kyle Amor

FB: Sam Tomkins, Zak Hardaker
WG: Ryan Hall, Tom Briscoe, Tommy Makinson
CN: Kallum Watkins, Michael Shenton, Jack Reed
SO: Gareth Widdop, Stefan Ratchford
SH: Kevin Sinfield, Luke Robinson
HK: James Roby, Rob Burrow
PR: George Burgess, James Graham, Luke Burgess, Chris Hill
SR: Carl Ablett, Brett Ferres, Sam Burgess, Ben Westwood
LF: Sean O'Loughlin

That's only 23

Slammin' Sam wlil be off to rugby union at year's end. He is not eligible!

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I'd go with:
Starting lineup of:

1. Hardaker
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Reed
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. Tomkins
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess. G
11. Ablett
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. Widdop
15. Hill
16. Crabtree
17. Ferres

Rest of squad:
18. Lomax
19. Walmsley
20. Whitehead
21. Makinson
22. Lunt
23. Farrell
24. Amor

I don't know how Hill cant be in the 24 man squad. He has carried our pack on his own, especially with Westwood being injured and anyone else who seems to pack down as a prop suddenly turning into a Warren Stevens-esque type of player.

FB: Tomkins, Lomax
WG: Hall, Briscoe, Makinson
CE: Watkins, Reed, Hardaker
SO: Widdop
SH: Hodkinson, Sneyd
PR: G. Burgess, Graham, Hill, Walmsley, Amor, Huby.
HK: Roby, Clark
SR: Westwood, Ferres, Farrell
LF: O'Loughlin, Westerman

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Tommy Makinson
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Zak Hardaker
5. Ryan Hall

6. Gareth Widdop
7. Trent Hodkinson

8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. George Burgess
11. Brett Ferres
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Daryl Clark
15. Alex Walmsley
16. Chris Hill
17. Kyle Amor / Craig Huby

18. Kyle Amor / Craig Huby
19. Jonny Lomax
20. Tom Briscoe
21. Jack Reed
22. Marc Sneyd
23. Liam Farrell
24. Joe Westerman

As a Hull fan I would love to see Westerman involved. Even though Hull haven't fired he has been excellent. O'Loughlin will start, but after him Westerman has played as well as anybody in that position.

Huby deserves a go on this seasons form too.

Nice to have some depth and not only that, plenty of YOUNG players. I would use this opportunity to blood some young players. I like to think we go in to every tournament trying to win, but we never do well in OZ and our greatest chance will be the lions and on home soil. The Aussies have some truly would class players to replace in next few years. Even with their conveyor belt they will struggle to replace them all at once. I would tu replace the lights of Sinfield, Westwood and give someone Sneyd/Bateman a run out. They will be test hardened by time we get Aussies on our patch and the Aussies will have some new faces. Would rather out new faces play now rather than making their debuts on home soil. I'd go:

FB - Hardaker/Lomax
Wing - Briscoe/Hall/Charnley
Centre - Watkins/Reed/Shenton
HB - Tomkins/Widdop/Sneyd
Prop - G Burgess/Hill/Huby/Graham/Amor/Walmsley
Hooker - Roby/Clark
Back row - Bateman/Ablett/Ferres/Westerman/O'loughlin

My England (Just Super League Players)

1. Zak Hardaker - Leeds Rhinos
2. Tom Briscoe - Leeds Rhinos
3. Kallum Watkins - Leeds Rhinos
4. Michael Shenton - Castleford Tigers
5. Ryan Hall - Leeds Rhinos
6. Marc Sneyd - Castleford Tigers
7. Kevin Sinfield - Leeds Rhinos
8. Alex Walmsley - St Helens
9. Daryl Clark - Castleford Tigers
10. Craig Huby - Castleford Tigers
11. Elliot Whitehead - Catalan Dragons
12. Liam Farrell - Wigan Warriors
13. Sean O'Loughlin - Wigan Warriors
Bench:-
14. James Roby - St Helens
15. Eorl Crabtree - Huddersfield Giants
16. Kyle Amor - St Helens
17. Carl Ablett - Leeds Rhinos
Rest of:-
18. Johnny Lomax - St Helens
19. Roby Burrow - Leeds Rhinos
20. Matty Smith - Wigan Warriors
21. Tommy Makinson - St Helens
22. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook - St Helens
23. Joe Westerman - Hull FC
24. Danny Kirmond - Wakefield Wildcats


NRL Players:-
Sam Tomkins, James Graham, Mike Cooper, George Burgess, Tom Burgess, Jack Reed, Luke Burgess

Shenton is not an International class centre.
I don't even know who Marc Sneyd is.
We don't need an interchange hooker.
Whitehead and Farrell are a poor second row combination. Farrell shouldn't be in the squad on latest form or previous England form.
Apart from Roby that bench is shocking and screams 'average'.
Matty Smith shouldn't be in the squad.
Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook is slated every week by his own fans.
And you've only chosen Cooper because he plays in the NRL.

That says more about you than it does his team selection.

Shenton was awesome for England in the centres a few years back, lost his form at Saints and has been rejuvenated back at Cas.

Better centre than Cudjoe, Atkins and the other usual suspects.

As for Sneyd, given he's played something like 50 games in Super League for more than one club and is currently one of the top goalkickers in the competition, maybe you should do some research. Perhaps you live in a Wigan bubble?

I'm surprised how so few people have mentioned Kevin brown, been outstanding this year. Could he do it at international level in the halves? Him and widdop?

Full back:
Tomkins, Hardaker

Wing:
Hall, Briscoe (Cant really pick Charnley at the moment)

Centre:
Watkins, Cudjoe, Reed

Halves:
Sinfield, Widdop, Chase

Hooker:
Mcllorum, Roby

Prop
Graham, G Burgess, Hill, L Burgess, Taylor, Walmsley

Back Row
O'Loughlin, Westwood, Farrell, Ablett, Bateman, Westerman

I was going to ask about him, seems to have gone up a gear when I've seen him lately. Tough, hardworking and a good all round skill set.

From Saints, Lomax is our gem. None of us would swap him for Hardaker.
Our starting front row is a real strength. Amor, Roby and Walmsley.
Walmsley has some silly errors in him, but his go forward is immense.
Roby's starting to look jaded from being flogged for 80 minutes a week, but is still England's best hooker. I'd like to see him interchanged with Clarke - very exciting.
Amor's been a real rock. He's out injured for awhile now, but should be back in good time to stake a decent claim.

Supposed to be picked on form, and not one Cas player in the 24man squad. Aye, alright.

If I were picking a 17 for a match tomorrow. I'd select

Hardaker
Makinson
Watkins
Shenton
Hall
Widdop
Sneyd
Graham
Clark
Peacock
Westwood
Whitehead
O'loughlin

Amor
Huby
Roby
Ablett

Yeah because I think there are better players to pick. A few touchy Cas fans on this thread. Chris Clarkson has been in great form for Leeds so far this season, it doesn't mean I'd pick him for England.

Lunt isn't half the player Daz Clark is!

It's the Daz Clark's, Joe Westermans we need to have in the 24man squads now, get a feel for the environment of an England squad.

Fully agree with you there. For far too long we've persisted with the old guard then thrown up and coming players in at the deep end expecting them to just slot into international rugby league. They need some experience first.