WIDNES:

This is much harder than I thought - because so many good players have played in the same position and so I find myself changing my mind not picking people who would usually walk into a team. Here goes though. In the end I went for a combination of sheer pace in most backline positions and toughness in most forward positions.

1. Mick Burke
2. Stuart Wright
3. Frank Myler
4. Eric Hughes
5. Martin Offiah
6. Dennis O'Neill
7. David Hulme
8. Jim Mills
9. Keith Elwell
10. Frank Collier
11. George Nicholls
12. Doug Laughton
13. Vince Karalius

Close calls: Mick Adams, Tony Myler, Joe Lydon, Andy Gregory, Jonathan Davies, Alan Tait, Jim Measures, Tony Karalius, George Kemel, Ray Dutton, Andy Currier, Mike O'Neill, etc

NO

1. steve prescott (close between him and arthur keegan)
2. clive sullivan
3. garry schofield
4. tevita vaikona
5. tom briscoe (could be lineham eventually)
6. david topliss
7. tony dean (oh to have those 2 now to solve out half back problem)
8. mick harrison
9. lee jackson
10. trevor skerrett
11. lee crooks
12. steve norton
13. johnny whiteley (just gets in - retired in 1965)

subs
14. richard horne
15. karl harrison
16. keith tindall
17. steve macnamara

pace and tries galore in the backs - 1 to 5 scored a total of 674 tries for hull, creativity at half back and 12 and 13, and a pack that would be feared throughout the league with a great hooker. that's a good team

close call for keegan, charlie stone, paul cooke, paul eastwood, mick crane, vince farrah, paul rose, gareth raynor, gareth carvell and kirk yeaman

I think there's a slight oversight with your #4 there.

Geoff Wraith
Brian Juliff
Neil Fox
Ian Brooke
Ryan Atkins
David Topliss
Danny Brough
John Burke
Colin Maskill
Trevor Skerrett
Ben Westwood
Gareth Ellis
Derek 'Rocky' Turner

Honourable mentions to: Keith Rayne, Andy Kelly, Gary Price, Michael Jackson, Don Fox, Brian Briggs, Harold Poynton,

not really, vaikona played most of his games for hull at [url=http://www.hullfc.com/first-team/profile/218995/tevita-vaikonacentre[/url. to be fair its a position we have been pretty weak over the years (GB qualified players that is) - yeaman is an option but vaikona would be bigger box office

1, Iystyn Harris
2, Ryan hall
3 Keith senior
4, Carl Gibson
5, John Atkinson
6 Gary Schofield
7, Rob Burrow
8 Jamie peacock
9 David ward
10 Barrie McDermott
11 Adrian Morley
12 Gareth ellis
13 Kevin Sinfield

Terry Hollindrake
Darryl Powell
Phil Larder -Coach

Good basis to build an excellent around

I Harris
R Hall
Schofield
Senior
Atkinson
L Jones
Holmes
Peacock
Ward
Morley
Ellis
Batten
Hanley

1 Zak Hardaker
2 Ikram Butt
3 John Gilbert
4 Paul Newlove
5 Steve Evans
6 Graham Steadman
7 Steve Nash
8 Jimmy Thompson
9 Keith Bridges
10 Vince Farrar
11 Charlie Stone
12 Peter Smith
13 Ian Smales (unless we can find a GB passport for Tuuta)
I only started watching Fev around 1970 so haven't been able to include any of the 60s greats.

1 Gary Connolly
2 Tony Sullivan
3 Paul Newlove
4 John Walsh
5 Les Jones

6 Sean Long
7 Alex Murphy

8 Andy Platt
9 Kieron Cunningham
10 Cliff Watson
11 Dick Huddart
12 John Mantle
13 Vince Karalius

I'd have Keith Bell at 13

did think about it, 13 was the hardest decision. Smales? Bell? Lyman? Slip Dave Hobbs in there and move Pete Smith to 13? Actually that might have been the right move, for a time Hobbs was one of the most unstoppable guys from 5 yards out I have ever seen.

Add John Newlove and you've got a pretty decent 17 there.


Yes, was it '84-85 or '85-86 when virtually the only way we could score was Hobbs on a crash ball from 5 yards out? One of my best memories is Mick Burke trying to stop him and nearly ending up in the crowd at the PO Rd end

Tomkins
Robinson
Lydon
Connelly
Offiah
Edwards
Greg
Skerrett
Dermott
Platt
Ashurst
Farrell
Hanley

Betts
Newton
Shaw
Hogan

Billy B and Eric Ashton ignored as I didn't see them in their prime.

John Newlove was a terrific and under-rated player - a very different type of player to Paul, but you couldn't really say he had the tremendous talent of his son. So the only other players he could have unseated were Gilbert and Steadman, both of whom were devastating on their day. Unfortunately you can only pick 13, and the presence of Steve Nash meant the great Deryck Fox was never going to get a look-in either.

TBH I'd probably put John Newlove at 6 before Steadman - the former being considerably more reliable and consistent and the latter a bit more a 'flash in the pan' player who could produce wonderful bits of individuality but they didn't happen every week.

Deryck Fox would probably make a great hooker in today's version of the game, whereas KB would be much more use if the hooker had to win the ball at the scrums.

1 Charlton
2 Burgess
3 Watkins
4 Hesketh
5 Richards
6 Gill
7 Nash
8 Coulman
9 Alker
10 Ward
11 Dixon
12 Forber
13 Prescott

Very difficult choice (mainly who I had to leave out)

Sam Tomkins
Billy Boston
Eric Ashton
Alan Davies
Martin Offiah
David Bolton
Shaun Edwards
Kelvin Skerrett
Martin Dermott
Brian McTigue
Bill Ashurst
Andy Farrell
Ellery Hanley

Joe Lydon
Dennis Betts
Sean O'Loughlin
Andy Platt

You still haven't grasped the idea of the thread have you?

he qualifies for GB under residency rules



ok then, i'll stick john newlove in there