Seriously think it's time we introduced 2 refs. The rucks are complete mess. Players are more interested in stealing the ball than actually tackling. Also attackers are letting go of it to try earn penalties. Put a referee right next to the ruck players will soon stop trying to rip the ball. Bentham wasn't even watching when Waterhouse rippted the ball and just guessed.

Its been bugging me for a while! Its annoying just like diving in football. I find that in the nrl the rucks are cleaner and there aint has much messing about. We need to have two refs

Its been bugging me for a while! Its annoying just like diving in football. I find that in the nrl the rucks are cleaner and there aint has much messing about. We need to have two refs

You are probably right, the problem is we can hardly find enough refs to officiate at the required level as it is, never mind trying to dig up another half dozen!

The current crop are not even up to the standard to referee a game on their own, why punish us with having two of the incompetent fools doing it.

and you will show your ability WHEN?

Personally i would have our full time set it charge, but the second ref (an up and coming ref from the championship) just stands by the ruck/tackle. It's more of a deterrent as if you have a ref 2 feet a way, players won't chance trying to rip it, and the guy carrying the ball will keep hold of it.

As said in my earlier post, Bentham wasn't looking half the time when the ball came out and just guessed and i'm fed up of players trying to rip the ball instead of tackling and just losing it trying to get a penalty.

As the ruck is the most important part of the sport, as regards refereeing, therefore if a game only has 1 ref then he/she should be by the ruck, and leave the touch judges to mark the 10m offside line. If the defending team advances too early then the touchies should inform the referee, simple.

Could be a good idea.I know what you mean about the ball steals i think it would help to eliminate it or at least get some accurate and fair decisions.

12 team super league coming up in 2015, we need two refs going into the new format

currently there is 7 or 8 referees who take control of sl matches, in a perfect world the clubs and the rfl should come together to have 2 games on the Friday, 2 Saturday and two the sunday, that would mean referees could double up over the weekend matches and have two men in the middle at each game

cant think of any other way we are going to get two refs as we don't have the number

Get 3 young refs over from Oz. Promote 2 from the Championship. Simple.

Ah, you seem to be one of these "you have no right to criticize a match official when you are not one yourself" imbeciles. Jeez, it's just a stroke of good fortune that I happen to be a qualified referee. Phew!

Hold on a minute, you're that attention seeking poster are you not, the one who tried to have this big fanfare saying that you are not posting on here anymore, and no-one really cared.

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Wow, didn't you look like a bit of a dingleberry.

1) Yes, We should have 2 refs - Works a lot better in the NRL - And hopefully wouldn't get as many shocking decisions.

The problem been, We don't have enough refs upto standard.


I also want to see us take the NRL approach that the referee has to make a call when going to the screen, And then the video ref has to prove them wrong.

Great idea.

And I think at TV games if a player says the ball was stolen why carnet the ref ask the VR ref to have a look it would only take a few seconds and it might help to stop it

I kind of agree, there is so much going on now around the tackle/play the ball that one official cant spot everything.
this knock on/ball ripped thing is really starting to annoy me now.
yes, the ball carrier should take some responsibility to keep hold of the ball, but when there is 2/3 men with hands all trying to pull it loose them more often than not the ball carrier cant keep hold, in that situation then it should be a penalty for a ball steal unless the ref is 100% certain he lost it on his own accord.

The salary of a referee isnt going to be anywhere near enough to tempt any young ref in Aus to fly across the world is it? I only hope you were trolling

On the ball steal option.

It could be used on a few things, That been one. If there was already a stoppage in the game, Which a scrum could be. The Captain could use a "Challenge" - As in Tennis, You Challenge wrong, You lose it. Obviously would only be on live games, But as said. It would help cut out the cheating.

Wire used the ball steal by the third man in the tackle.
Don't know why the refs miss it all all.
Tony Smith introduced it at Leeds around 6 years or so ago and it worked wonders for them, getting a knock on when it should have been a penalty against.
The refs caught up with them about two seasons ago.
Smith has now taken the tactic to Wire and it worked brilliantly and completely fooled Bentham v Huddersfield.
Noticed in last night's game Thaler was on the look out for the offence and caught both Wigan and Widnes at it.
We just need the refs to know the tricks of the trade coaches use and be waiting for them.