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| Having watched the NRL for the past few years the 2 ref setup if the way to go. The calls made are far more accurate as the refs have a better view of most decisions.
Can the rfl afford it?
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| Quote ="Sadfish"Having watched the NRL for the past few years the 2 ref setup if the way to go. The calls made are far more accurate as the refs have a better view of most decisions.
Can the rfl afford it?'"
Probably not
Maybe the RFL should approach Specsavers for some sponsorship?
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| Worth trying but I thought the Aussies had considered going back to the one ref.
Don't think we can afford it, however we may be in trouble if the RLIF votes in favour of two refs for fully pro games. SL may have to follow as they did with the shoulder charge ban.
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| But would 2 refs bring consistency to our game? That's what we are lacking no 2 games are reffed the same.
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| It's what the SL needs, but the question is are our refs good enough? Ganson is the best of a very bad bunch. He blows the pea out of the whistle for the first ten but he won't take the soft option. Silverwood is terrible, Roby can't hack it, Robert Hicks doesn't even know why he's on the field. Personally I'd rather every game had a video ref and the 'On Report' system abolished. Our refs are threatening a strike alledgedly with not having good enough management so maybe video refs at every game first?
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| just a thought, do away with the 2 in goal touch judges and have a 2nd ref. Then the ref in the defensive line is also in place to see if a try is scored. Cost wise do 2 touches = 1 ref........mmmmm
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| Quote ="Sadfish"Having watched the NRL for the past few years the 2 ref setup if the way to go. '"
I guarantee you'll change your tune if your club draws the unholy alliance of Child and Alibert.
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| I play American Football, we have 5 refs every week (1 behind the defence, 1 behind the offence, 1 to the side to start with and 1 on each touchline) and they still cock it up constantly. Just having more doesn't make them better, you have to have higher refereeing standards across the board, otherwise it's just an extra person to blame for a defeat.
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| I thought the refereeing in the NRL has been pretty inconsistent so far, seen some very strange decisions.
We ain't got 2 quality officials running our games now, where on earth are we going to find 2 a game from?
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| I'll tell you this
Our refs are better than the Aussie ones
Both sets of Video refs make it up as they go along though
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| Quote ="Sadfish"Having watched the NRL for the past few years the 2 ref setup if the way to go. The calls made are far more accurate as the refs have a better view of most decisions.
Can the rfl afford it?'"
I hope the RFL bring it in . Even if we have a junior ref policing the PTB.
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| 2 Refs, 2 TJ's, 2 In Goal Judges, a fifth ref, a video ref, a ref who manages replacements, a match comissioner and blind Stevo/Cherry Clarke
Lets really sterilise the game
and we moan about the removal of the shoulder charge
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| Two refs has its pro,s & con,s, I watch loads of NRL & they still seem able to mess it up at times, What I do like in the NRL is that the benefit of the doubt has gone & the ref gives his opinion (try or no try) then ask,s the video ref to judge. The new Aus refs boss it apears has issued his instructions as how the game is to be played so at least the press public as well as players know what is required. Somthing that we could use here.
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| It's not the number of referees that is the issue, it's the calibre of the individuals.
The referees in Super League are all really low level characters as people. They are skinny geeks who no doubt have no friends or social skills. They are not strong enough personalities and not capable of handling the pressure. They really are there simply because no one else wants to be doing it.
Having two of them wouldn't mean they made better decisions, if anything it would probably mean they made more decisions, which I'm not convinced is a good thing.
IMO referees should be former players. They know what happens in games and can judge things a lot better.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"It's not the number of referees that is the issue, it's the calibre of the individuals.
The referees in Super League are all really low level characters as people. '"
I doubt that very much. I'd be sure that you need to be made of pretty stern stuff to be a RL ref or touchie - all the more so in front of ten thousand or more baying fans in major SL games.
Quote ="Saddened!"They are skinny...'"
relevance? (though Ganson and Hewer would kiss you for that)
Quote ="Saddened!" geeks ... '"
...if so, so what? ....
Quote ="Saddened!" who no doubt have no friends or social skills. '"
Er, I suspect they do.
Quote ="Saddened!"They are not strong enough personalities and not capable of handling the pressure. '"
Self-evidently, total and utter bollox
Quote ="Saddened!"They really are there simply because no one else wants to be doing it. '"
Wrong, there are actually loads of lower level RL match officials and there are many who aspire to be a SL ref.
Quote ="Saddened!"Having two of them wouldn't mean they made better decisions, if anything it would probably mean they made more decisions, which I'm not convinced is a good thing. '"
No but it does mean they only have something nearer half the work to do, and the ability which one man can never have, to watch two things in different places at the same time and to be in two places at once. (BTW to be clear I am not convinced that the 2 ref model is overall better, I watch all the NRL games and it seems to work well in some games, but then not so well in others)
Quote ="Saddened!"IMO referees should be former players. They know what happens in games and can judge things a lot better.'"
There is no bar on former players moving into reffing though. As such, there's no "should" about it. Any that want to be, and are good enough, can be.
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| Quote ="Code13"I'll tell you this
Our refs are better than the Aussie ones
Both sets of Video refs make it up as they go along though'"
Fully agree. I can see why people prefer the 2 ref system compared to one, but can't understand why people bag the SL refs. Yeah, they get decisions wrong now and again, and I'm one of the first to call them on it when it happens, but at least other than their NRL counterparts, they have no issues refereeing a game on their own.
I don't think SL needs the 2 ref system, I just think the officials as a whole need tinkering with. And as for the NRL referees being better than SL referees.......... .
This is an organisation that has the likes of Shayne Hayne, Jarred Maxwell, Ben Cummins, Matt Cecchin and Gavin Badger in their ranks. Simply awful referees. I don't think the NRL have had any decent referees, and I include the retirees like Clark, Mander, Simpkins and that asshat Tony Archer in that list too.
It's the players that make the referees look good. Plus they are biased as hell in internationals.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"It's not the number of referees that is the issue, it's the calibre of the individuals.
The referees in Super League are all really low level characters as people. They are skinny geeks who no doubt have no friends or social skills. They are not strong enough personalities and not capable of handling the pressure. They really are there simply because no one else wants to be doing it.
Having two of them wouldn't mean they made better decisions, if anything it would probably mean they made more decisions, which I'm not convinced is a good thing.
IMO referees should be former players. They know what happens in games and can judge things a lot better.'"
Is that a self appraisal?
For as long as our game is officiated by men/women there will always be human error. It is unavoidable. How many mistakes do players make during a game? Arguably more than the officials.
I don't think having two refs would achieve anything other than slow the game down. I know plenty of Australians who want to revert to one referee. This is just one of the many NRL misconceptions which get banded about.
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