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| Why are Wigan not punished for their continued dummy spitting about McIllorum's ban? Despite the clear intent to harm, the wild swinging arm to the face and despite it's lateness, they just will not accept it.
Wigan have approached his ban as being an injustice, a crime against Wigan. Their victim mentality lead to Wane criticising the decision to ban him, appealing and then criticising the decision again. He then dedicates the victory against Catalans to the memory of Mike McIllorum's season (The most pathetic comment I've heard in years) and Luluai and Tomkins both call the RFL a joke for banning him. All this after Wane came out earlier in the season and declared marshall law because ickle Sam might get hurt and despite McIllorum's previous.
In what other sport would such behaviour be acceptable? Why haven't they been sanctioned like Trent Robinson and Mike Rush were earlier in the season when they questioned refereeing performances?
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| Obsessed whoops my mistake your name is Saddened
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| I wholeheartedly agree Mr saddened.
If Mr Wane doesn't shut up, someone will have to shut him up. I will be monitering the situation and my associates will take the appropriate action should the need arise.
You'll not be having any more problems from Mr Wane, I can assure you.
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| Tbh, a lot of what they have said is true, the main problem being lack of consistancy when is comes to the disciplinary system.
If McM deserved a three match ban, then a lot of other players during the course of the season do too. When you look at that then you can see why people would complain.
And also, they are just giving their opinion, wouldn't shock me if a hell of a lot more players and coaches think the same things but just keep quiet about it, problem is with that, nothing will ever get done if everyone
kept it zipped.
Also Saddened, lets be honest, the only reason your not happy is because its Wigan, any other team you wouldn't care, and if it was Saints, you would be right behind them.
Probably having a pop at Wigan for something at the same time, but still behind them.
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| I don't think that the RFL should be taking advice from the coach of a club that has a shameful track record of devient activities and attempts to subvery the integrity of the competition.
That is all.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino":2rt2xonsI don't think that the RFL should be taking advice from the coach of a club that has a shameful track record of devient activities and attempts to subvery the integrity of the competition.
That is all.'" activities, eh? Care to say more? Sounds juicy.
In answer to the OP: Most sports (especially football).
Finally, the point is consistency. No Wigan fan I've spoken to thinks he deserved any less *taken in isolation* - but its not consistent with other so-called 'premeditated' incidents. Otherwise how would Ryan Bailey still be playing the sport?
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"I don't think that the RFL should be taking advice from the coach of a club that has a shameful track record of devient activities and attempts to subvery the integrity of the competition.
That is all.'"
If there was any consistency at all in the world of RL, then you would be serving a long ban for crimes against the English language.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"Finally, the point is consistency. No Wigan fan I've spoken to thinks he deserved any less *taken in isolation* - but its not consistent with other so-called 'premeditated' incidents. Otherwise how would Ryan Bailey still be playing the sport?'"
From recollection, most of the offences with which Bailey's been charged have been lower grade stuff. Which premeditated incidents are you referring to?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Why are Wigan not punished for their continued dummy spitting about McIllorum's ban?'"
Because even the RFL are embarrassed by the inconsistency we have seen this season and especially in recent weeks from the officials and the disciplinary tribunal and don't want to draw any more attention to yet another shambolic aspect of this poorly run sport.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Why are Wigan not punished for their continued dummy spitting about McIllorum's ban? '"
Because in most people's worlds, having an opinion is not generally held to be a criminal offence. So glad you aren't running things.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Because in most people's worlds, having an opinion is not generally held to be a criminal offence. So glad you aren't running things.'"
Having an opinion is one thing. But to slander the organisation, the process and the people involved in it so savagely is different to saying you didn't agree with the decision. The words 'it's/they're a joke' have come up again and again in Wigan's responses.
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| Saddened you can't be more wrong mate, didn't you know the RFL are out to get Wigan at all costs?
In what world is a late, and deliberately high swinging arm on a blindsided opponent a 3 match ban? Jokers the RFL, I tell thee.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Having an opinion is one thing. But to slander the organisation, the process and the people involved in it so savagely is different to saying you didn't agree with the decision. [uThe words 'it's/they're a joke' have come up again and again in Wigan's responses[/u.'"
Show me
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| Quote ="Pemps"Show me'"
Un-ban me from the Wigan site and I will
You know you want to. Think of it, you would be a hero, you'd get an award off Amnesty International, correcting a decade long injustice.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Un-ban me from the Wigan site and I will
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No
Quote ="Saddened!"You know you want to.'"
No I don't
Quote ="Saddened!"Think of it'"
Not even for a second
Quote ="Saddened!"you would be a hero'"
Quite the opposite
Quote ="Saddened!"you'd get an award off Amnesty International'"
Doubt that
Quote ="Saddened!"correcting a decade long injustice.'"
you say injustice, we say justice.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Show me'"
Fielden's aftermatch comments for a start were worthy of at the very least a telling off
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| Quote ="Pemps"No
No I don't
Not even for a second
Quite the opposite
Doubt that
you say injustice, we say justice.
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It only seems fair , I mean we have to suffer through that boring old git Rogues... at least Saddo is interesting and pretty funny.
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| Quote ="Pemps"you say injustice, we say justice.
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I'll bet you can't even come up with a single reason for it. Not one. I'll even bet your actions contravene several laws regarding online bullying and probably even breach the AUP (Although I've never read it)
My in depth rugby league discussions, humour and positive all-round contribution are one of the main highlights of RLFANS.COM, your board is missing out.
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| Any complaints about consistency are reasonable in my view - there have been glaring inconsistencies in how SL has been officiated this season and it's correct to suggest that something should be done about that.
What isn't appropriate however, is for senior officials and players from a club that is often touted as the gold standard of SL, to air their views in public, in direct contravention of the rules of membership of said SL; I'm sure there are internal grievance/complaints procedures that are open to them and that's what they should be using.
Public flogging of Saddened is open to all - public flogging of refs should be left to fans.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I'll bet you can't even come up with a single reason for it. Not one. I'll even bet your actions contravene several laws regarding online bullying and probably even breach the AUP (Although I've never read it)
My in depth rugby league discussions, humour and positive all-round contribution are one of the main highlights of RLFANS.COM, your board is missing out.'"
Still no
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| I think the tackle warranted the ban and do think anyone who criticizes the RFL calling them a 'joke' for punishing him should be warned or charged for improper conduct and in breach of the respect policy. However I do understand Wigan's point of view that other challenges similar go unpunished or under punished. I had the same opinion after the Magic Weekend when Dobson was sin binned for holding down. The punishment was correct but my gripe was that it goes unpunished a lot of the time.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Fielden's aftermatch comments for a start were worthy of at the very least a telling off'"
Can you actually quote what Fielden said (word for word)? Ta.
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| 3 pages of bites Saddo, you've obviously still got it.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Any complaints about consistency are reasonable in my view - there have been glaring inconsistencies in how SL has been officiated this season and it's correct to suggest that something should be done about that.
What isn't appropriate however, is for senior officials and players from a club that is often touted as the gold standard of SL, to air their views in public, in direct contravention of the rules of membership of said SL; I'm sure there are internal grievance/complaints procedures that are open to them and that's what they should be using.
Public flogging of Saddened is open to all - public flogging of refs should be left to fans.'"
What we need is a COMPLETE airing of views in public about the RFL (in general) by every club, in the faint hope of creating enough stink to get rid of them.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"icon_lol.gif
Can you actually quote what Fielden said (word for word)? Ta.'"
No because I can't be bothered , I'm sure someone has the clip if your that fussed. Criticising a ref is a no no
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