Well it was just a matter of time till reffing blunders cost a team a finals place, well done refs on getting Manly though to next week!

If the video refs keep making big mistakes get rid.

one mistake is forgiveable, but last night it went crazy.. the first benefit of doubt try was dubious but you can see why it was given, the second one was just a joke, the second cowboys try was scored after a deliberate rip out of the ball by the cowboys and also in the second half the manly no2 grounded the ball in his own in goal area and just got up and ran and the ref didnt stop play, mr thurston was furious about that one but kept his cool..best team won the game but it was spoiled by poor refereeing

stuart raper the referees boss has admitted that they got the second "benefit of the doubt " try wrong

no problem with first one, second was a shocker, missed strip was unfortunate but you can't get them right 100% without video ref (and even hen it is a lotto!)

MAnly were the better team but that Oldfeld try killed the game and the Cowboys chances imo. No excuses, there was two refs in the box, plenty of time and plenty of video replays that all showed 1. Foran knocked it on 2. Lyons passed off the ground when held. Very poor. Lets hope tonights game is decided by the better team not the dodgy refs!

The second one was just unbelievable, it seemed almost obvious that Foran had touched the ball...just as the commentators had stated. Very weird decision that most probably put Cowboys out of the game....

Sth's game passed off without ref incidents! Not a very intense game though. Hopefully next weeks will be a step up in class.

its gonna be a good crowd next friday night at homebush with both teams playing at home.
going to the final with some souths fans so hopefully it will be souths v storm in the final and i can give them a bit of banter/abuse lol

The Foran one was a shocker.

he now seems to remember that he did knock on

Massive crowd predicted for Doggies! 70K+?

www.rlbet.co.uk/live-nrl-streaming Friday, 21 September 2012: Melbourne v Manly Saturday, 22 September 2012: Canterbury v South Sydney Who is everybody going for? I think Canterbury should win quite comfortably and probalby Melbourne as well although that one should be closer

www.rlbet.co.uk/live-nrl-streaming Friday, 21 September 2012: Melbourne v Manly Saturday, 22 September 2012: Canterbury v South Sydney Who is everybody going for? I think Canterbury should win quite comfortably and probalby Melbourne as well although that one should be closer

tipped the doggies and storm but both games could go either way,its gonna be close

Dogs and storm comfortably.

Dogs by 10. Storm by 8.

i will have a pint of whatever the video refs are drinking lol... not again ffs

Tbf it was a correct decision. It is the rule book that needs changing, not the refs fault this time.

No it wasn't.

Big crowd at the ANZ, the queue for walk ups was pretty healthy.

Yes it was. Not enough evidence of separation = botd. Ball grounded with forearm = try. Tell me, according to the rule book, how the refs got it wrong.

The separation was clear as ing day. You need to apply for a job as an NRL video ref. Blindness is a pre-requisite. Last week they were sacked for exactly the same thing - claiming there was not enough evidence, when it was clear. I wanted Melbourne to win but that was never ever a try and the fact that only the most deluded Manly fans and the two idiots in the box reckon it was a try says more about them than anything else.

Not enough evidence? I'll buy you a decent tv.

Well seems the video refs agreed with me! There was no clear separation at the time the ball and forearm hit the ground. It shouldn't have been a try but as the rule book stands it was the right decision.

This is the frame the ball hits the ground and as you can see you can not tell if there is a mm of gap between his forearm and ball. Hence BOTD.

For me I would change the rule to:

1. A try can only be scored by the hand forcing downward pressure on the ball with some element of control
2. If you can not be sure give it back to the ref to make a judgement call, no BOTD nonsense.

As I said this should not have been a try but with the current rules it has to be given.

Worst argument in the history of internet fora.