Good game so far. Correct call with the sending off - off the ball, late, and high. Probably better for McIlorum that he got red as he would have certainly got a ban and may get away with sending off sufficient now.

Saints were on top beforehand and only a pathetic attempted tackle from TP has let Wigan on the board. You would expect Saints to go on and win but they have a lack of composure near the line which might keep Wigan in it.

Quality finish from Makinson for his try.

He won't get SOS, he got sent off for punching Elima earlier this year, and has used his guilty plea. That's indefensible that.

Seems only Wigan players get straight reds. I wonder why that is.

He's no Paul Wood that's for sure

They do?

Clear sending off, indefensible. Should be a 4 match ban in my opinion.

At least a 3

Really?

Could be because they are a bunch of dirty gets.

Clear sending off without any doubt. Unnecessary and blatant but not the worst hit we've seen, but probably 2-3 games.

McIlorum cost us the game tonight and could have now cost us the play-offs by losing us our first-choice hooker, a massive presence in defence. He did this at KR last week, throwing shots and giving away penalties, costing us dearly - hope he's pleased with himself.

Prat. Hope Wane tears strips off him.

We are absolute gash and have no chance of getting to the Grand Final nevermind win it.

Yep, you'd have won relatively comfortably (for a Wigan v Saints game) with 13 men.
He's a very good player but seems to have a bit of a Terry Newton idiocy streak in him, if he can control his aggression he'll be even better.

O'Loughlin was very lucky to stay on as well for his very deliberate high shot on Makinson, players have gone for far less than that this season.

When they got put under pressure Wigan's discipline went completely and it must be a worry for them. McIllorum is becoming as much of a mindless idiot as Terry Newton and the likes of Finch and Carmont could easily have walked for their reactions/paddies at the referee when Wilkin put in a good shot on O'Loughlin. I don't think Finch, Tomkins or Lima managed to play the ball without lashing out at the markers tonight either.

Their dedication to finding new ways to cheat their way around the rules is commendable though. Their new tactic that they tried two or three times tonight of deliberately passing the ball into a grounded tackler needs to be looked at very quickly or it could become farcical. If they do it deliberately it should be play on.

Thought Wilkin did his best to even things up for Wigan.

Unusually I agree with you, the last one when O Loughlin ' placed ' the ball on Robys back was quite ridiculous

Plus you forgot to mention the pushing the head into the tackled players face tactic as well

As I said on the Saints board. The difference between Wigan and Wire at the moment is that Wire can control their aggression, and when things get tough they keep their cool and defend fiercely whilst not taking it ''too far''. Wigan did not implode tonight like I thought when McIlorum got sent off, but some of the dirty tactics on show could easily have been punished, like Tomkins lashing out in the tackle and O'Loughlin's constant headhigh shots.

The ridiculous thing is, a loss was probably the best result for us tonight, as now we shouldn't be playing Saints twice more in the playoffs, that would have been 6 derby matches in a season...

Operation lose but make it look like we are trying to win: Success

We're marginally better than the Chinese Badminton team.

Bit of a grubby game all round tonight. McIlorum really needs to control his moron streak. Oddly made me more confident though, to hold that match for so long with 12 men against 3rd place.

It's terrible how Wigan are the only team in the history of rugby to do these things. They should be booted out of the league.

just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not all out to get you!

Who's mentioned anything like that? It was an awful shot from Mcllorum and deserves minimum 3 games.

I actually thought Wigan played extremely well. To go 3/4s of the game with a man down against 3rd in the league and only lose by a try takes guts.

It's probably the intoxicating atmosphere on your planet. Come back down to this planet, where we don't have that problem, so you won't have to worry about it any more.

A more straightforward sending off you're never likely to see - late, high and deliberate; he's a talented lad, but appears to be seriously flawed in the attitude department - cost his team the game tonight, despite Stuart Fielding's idiotic comment during the post-match interview.

Aside from Wigan's niggly tactics and Saints poor execution near the line, it was quite an entertaining game for the neutral; decent crowd too - looked good on the telly.

Good shout, his kicking game was shocking, kicking for teritory when you are facing 12 men is a strange tactic. Although we lost last night I think I would be more worried if I was a saints fan than a wiganer, two or three years ago if we had a man sent off early in the 1st half saints would have put 40 on us no question and there would have been no contest, at one stage in the 2nd half last night it looked like wigan could win!