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| Was listening to TalkSport ,and they were discussing Van Persie.It was on the lines of "if Arsenal offered him £250,000 per week,Man City would probably offer £300,000."
What an obscene amount of money for someone to kick a ball about.I hope R.L. never goes down this path.
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| no danger of that mate haha.
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| Quote ="j.c"no danger of that mate haha.'"
I would imagine you are right.I am getting on a bit now,and never thought I would see the day you can`t afford to go to a football match.
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| Quote ="barton baird"I would imagine you are right.I am getting on a bit now,and never thought I would see the day you can`t afford to go to a football match.'"
It would only be Grimsby anyway so it's probably for the best.
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| Thought this was going to be a thread about Joe Westerman
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| Quote ="rich86"Thought this was going to be a thread about Joe Westerman'"
Woooooooooooshh............
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"It would only be Grimsby anyway so it's probably for the best.'"
Strangely enough I can`t disagree with you at the moment.
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| I hope that one day rugby league does go down the money path because many rugby league players come from poor backgrounds just like the football players.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I hope that one day rugby league does go down the money path because many rugby league players come from poor backgrounds just like the football players.'"
We'd have to sell our soul to SKY for that to happen
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Taking this back to a slightly more comparable code. The average SL wage is around £65k a year and the average Aviva Premiership English RU wage is £85k. We have a cap for the top 25 players and they have a cap of £4m for every player at the club.
London are the latest club to go to the limit of the salary cap, my question is can we raise it from £1.65m to say £1.8m. A relatively minor jump, but could our clubs afford this, or will the Man City's or Saracens off this sporting world come and pick off our best players for years to come.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... -deal.html
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Taking this back to a slightly more comparable code. The average SL wage is around £65k a year and the average Aviva Premiership English RU wage is £85k. We have a cap for the top 25 players and they have a cap of £4m for every player at the club.
London are the latest club to go to the limit of the salary cap, my question is can we raise it from £1.65m to say £1.8m. A relatively minor jump, but could our clubs afford this, or will the Man City's or Saracens off this sporting world come and pick off our best players for years to come.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... -deal.html
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| The RL salary cap's 20-20 rule limited a team to name twenty players who could earn £20,000 a year or more. Dave Whelan was talking on TV recently of Premier League clubs introducing a limit of only five players able to earn £ 20,000 a week!!!
Whelan talks a lot of sense at times based on his Rugby League knowledge.
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| Quote ="Marcus Notsquare"The RL salary cap's 20-20 rule limited a team to name twenty players who could earn £20,000 a year or more. Dave Whelan was talking on TV recently of Premier League clubs introducing a limit of only five players able to earn £ 20,000 a week!!!
Whelan talks a lot of sense at times based on his Rugby League knowledge.'"
Not really. Any salary cap in football would have to be at the very very least European-wide and probably world-wide. If that rule proposed by Dave Whelan were to be introduced then all that would happen is the vast majority of current Premier League players would move to French, Spanish, Italian or German clubs that don't operate under a salary cap.
Plus when he was in charge of a rugby league club he wanted rid of the salary cap so that he could use his money to spend Wigan to victory. Since he can't come close to competing with Man Utd, Chelsea or Man City money he wants a salary cap to help out Wigan Athletic.
Football desperately does need a salary cap, but as I said it absolutely has to be world-wide and not implemented unilaterally, it would be suicide for the Premier League and English football.
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| proposterous amounts of money in football these days...all the financial problems in the world could be solved in a month if every premiership player donated 1 months wages to its country of birth !!!!
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| most football clubs will be bankrupt within twenty years!
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"proposterous amounts of money in football these days...'"
Welcome to the world of SKY
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"proposterous amounts of money in football these days...all the financial problems in the world could be solved in a month if every premiership player donated 1 months wages to its country of birth !!!!'"
20 premiership teams, say a squad of 25 so that's 500 players. Even if every player was paid the same as Tevez on 250,000 a week that would only amount to £500m.
That would pay off 0.12% of the US yearly debt interest payments.
Whilst the footballers are paid ridiculous sums of money, at least some of them have some talent rather than those overpaid arrogant t0ssers in The City, happily taking millions in bonuses while laying people off thanks to their own greed.
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| Quote ="Him"20 premiership teams, say a squad of 25 so that's 500 players. Even if every player was paid the same as Tevez on 250,000 a week that would only amount to £500m.
That would pay off 0.12% of the US yearly debt interest payments.
Whilst the footballers are paid ridiculous sums of money, at least some of them have some talent rather than those overpaid arrogant t0ssers in The City, happily taking millions in bonuses while laying people off thanks to their own greed.'"
excellent maths there
20x25x250000x52 weeks = £6.5 BILLION
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"excellent maths there
20x25x250000x52 weeks = £6.5 BILLION'"
There aren't 25 players on £250,000 a week in the Premier League. Bar the top two or three I doubt any player is. Everton for example only recently broke their self imposed wage cap of £40,000 a week and that was for Mikel Arteta who has since been flogged.
But on football, it's not like there is that much money in the sport. The sport spends more than it earns each year. Pretty unsustainable if you ask me.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"excellent maths there
20x25x250000x52 weeks = £6.5 BILLION'"
Yes that would be the yearly wage of all the players, except the poster I was responding to clearly stated only a months wages would solve the problem. Excellent reading there
Even so, if we took an entire League of Tevez-like wages for a whole year it would pay only 1.5% of the US annual debt interest payments, it's hardly solving the entire financial crisis.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I hope that one day rugby league does go down the money path because many rugby league players come from poor backgrounds just like the football players.'"
The game just doesn't generate enough interest over here mate, RL will never be in a position to pay a player £200 grand a week,
Joel Tomkins reputed to be offered £400,000 a YEAR to play union at Saracens.
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| When all clubs can afford to pay full cap and break even at the end of the year then up it. Until then don't, it's not like it will make a blind bit of difference to one or two players being offered silly money from RU.
Much bigger impact than RU will be when the NRL cap goes up and they get two more expansion teams. Then we will see a dramatic reduction in 1st grade NRL players moving to SL, this will leave a big gap in clubs rosters from 2014 onwards.
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Quote ="Him"Yes that would be the yearly wage of all the players, except the poster I was responding to clearly stated only a months wages would solve the problem. Excellent reading there
Even so, if we took an entire League of Tevez-like wages for a whole year it would pay only 1.5% of the US annual debt interest payments, it's hardly solving the entire financial crisis.'"
Visual representation of US debt, just to cheer up your Thursday.
usdebt.kleptocracy.us/
Not quite as good UK version too...
t.co/uWTr4Grf
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Quote ="Him"Yes that would be the yearly wage of all the players, except the poster I was responding to clearly stated only a months wages would solve the problem. Excellent reading there
Even so, if we took an entire League of Tevez-like wages for a whole year it would pay only 1.5% of the US annual debt interest payments, it's hardly solving the entire financial crisis.'"
Visual representation of US debt, just to cheer up your Thursday.
usdebt.kleptocracy.us/
Not quite as good UK version too...
t.co/uWTr4Grf
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I hope that one day rugby league does go down the money path because many rugby league players come from poor backgrounds just like the football players.'"
Welcome to the wonderful world of Damo-Leeds logic. Happy for tens of thousands of poor and working class people to be ripped off on ticket and shirt prices etc so that 11 people from poor and working class backgrounds can earn more money than they ever dreamed of
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Indeed. I'm not sure Tim Howard & Clint Dempsey donating their wages will make much of an impact on a few trillion dollars of debt to be honest.
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Indeed. I'm not sure Tim Howard & Clint Dempsey donating their wages will make much of an impact on a few trillion dollars of debt to be honest.
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| There won't be any limit on what Football clubs pay their players.
The only thing which appears to be an effort to bring income and expenditure into line is the uefa fair play rule and that has its limits as City have just proved with their naming right deal on the stadium.
The top 20 European clubs tried to introduce a salary cap well over a decade ago and wrote to the EU for its approval.
The EU told them to forget it, it was illegal as a restraint of trade, they, reportedly told them don't bother writing again or phoning about it!
I'd just love the owner of Barrow to go to the courts over the sanctions which were imposed for the breech of the SC bring a restraint of trade!
I wonder if the RFL would even defend the SC through the courts!
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