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| Would reintroducing A teams benefit our game?
There seems to be quite a transition gap, from u20’s or NL to SL.
Players not in the 17 would get more game time etc…
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| Feeder clubs are the way forward...
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Feeder clubs are the way forward...'"
Ditto. I've said this on a few forums this year.
A teams are pointless. It just takes a level of talent off the Championship clubs, further reducing the quality of that competition. What they need to do is have each Championship club formally announced as a feeder club. They get to share training facilities with the big boys, get entrenched in the big club environment and also get the young players that would normally be in the U20s of the SL club.
Fans of the Championship clubs just need to accept there is no future for those clubs. There is not enough money for them to survive long term. A lot of them are in a slow decline to oblivion at present.
You could then have all SL players on dual reg and have them play as appropriate in whichever division suits.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Ditto. I've said this on a few forums this year.
A teams are pointless. It just takes a level of talent off the Championship clubs, further reducing the quality of that competition. What they need to do is have each Championship club formally announced as a feeder club. They get to share training facilities with the big boys, get entrenched in the big club environment and also get the young players that would normally be in the U20s of the SL club.
Fans of the Championship clubs just need to accept there is no future for those clubs. There is not enough money for them to survive long term. A lot of them are in a slow decline to oblivion at present.
You could then have all SL players on dual reg and have them play as appropriate in whichever division suits.'"
I wonder how the super league clubs could afford to run a feeder side when some of them can't even spend to the salary cap anyay. I can't imagine many of the championship fans sticking around to watch.
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| Quote ="Guybrush"I wonder how the super league clubs could afford to run a feeder side when some of them can't even spend to the salary cap anyay. I can't imagine many of the championship fans sticking around to watch.'"
Correct on both accounts
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| Quote ="Guybrush"I wonder how the super league clubs could afford to run a feeder side when some of them can't even spend to the salary cap anyay. I can't imagine many of the championship fans sticking around to watch.'"
The SL clubs wouldn't be running the feeder teams full stop. It's more about a pooling of resources than SL clubs absorbing CL clubs. The benfits are mutual for both sides I think. The U20's is a poor competition and the vast majority of games are one-sided blowouts. Young players on both sides will learn nothing from a 70-0 drubbing so a link-up with a Championship club instead will provide a more consistent test, as well as allowing Championship teams to have a bigger pool of talented youngsters to play for them
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| Quote ="Guybrush"I can't imagine many of the championship fans sticking around to watch.'"
Not exactly queuing around the block at the minute, are they?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Not exactly queuing around the block at the minute, are they?'"
And you think this would help ?
So who's feeder club would Quins/Bronco's be ?
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Would reintroducing A teams benefit our game?
There seems to be quite a transition gap, from u20’s or NL to SL.
Players not in the 17 would get more game time etc…'"
Of course it would,but who would pay for it?, not the sl clubs thats for sure.
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| Quote ="Starbug"And you think this would help ?
So who's feeder club would Quins/Bronco's be ?'"
Skolars would seem to make sense, nothing to say that feeder club has to be in the Championship rather than Championship 1.
Anything that raises the playing standards in the lower leagues has to be good for getting people back through the gates IMO. Nobody is talking about these clubs losing their own identities, just linking up with a SL side to benefit from the young players who aren't yet ready for the top level.
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| Rumours that Wigan are to take over South Wales Scorpions as a feeder team.
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| Another SL fan telling us how to run our own business! Mind your own and leave us alone. Not only do want a closed shop with the chance of any existing CC club ever getting into SL vitually zero, but now you want to tell us how to carry on out of SL!
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Ditto. I've said this on a few forums this year.
A teams are pointless. It just takes a level of talent off the Championship clubs, further reducing the quality of that competition. What they need to do is have each Championship club formally announced as a feeder club. They get to share training facilities with the big boys, get entrenched in the big club environment and also get the young players that would normally be in the U20s of the SL club.
Fans of the Championship clubs just need to accept there is no future for those clubs. There is not enough money for them to survive long term. A lot of them are in a slow decline to oblivion at present.
You could then have all SL players on dual reg and have them play as appropriate in whichever division suits.'"
And if the SL side has 8 – 10 players without game time, that you want to play in the championship side, wont that means 8 – 10 championship players not getting a game? The championship side are then basically become you’re SL A team at a different club.
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| Quote ="Guybrush"I wonder how the super league clubs could afford to run a feeder side when some of them can't even spend to the salary cap anyay. I can't imagine many of the championship fans sticking around to watch.'"
I can. The quality of the competition would be far higher, the players would be more committed (As their future SL careers would be riding on it).
The financial common sense is the best part. The SL club pays the salaries they are currently paying for the players and the Championship club gets better players for less money.
So as Wire's feeder club, Leigh could have had Riley, Higham, Evans, Louie Anderson, Williams etc playing for them for nothing.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Skolars would seem to make sense, nothing to say that feeder club has to be in the Championship rather than Championship 1.
Anything that raises the playing standards in the lower leagues has to be good for getting people back through the gates IMO. Nobody is talking about these clubs losing their own identities, just linking up with a SL side to benefit from the young players who aren't yet ready for the top level.'"
Read what I posted again , properly
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| Quote ="Isaiah"And if the SL side has 8 – 10 players without game time, that you want to play in the championship side, wont that means 8 – 10 championship players not getting a game? The championship side are then basically become you’re SL A team at a different club.'"
What's the problem with that? You would be watching a higher standard and those Championship players missing out would have to prove their worth. That competitive environment would get young players used to it and raise the standard.
It would mean more equipped young players coming through to SL.
What is the alternative? Trying to scramble through from year to year, scraping surivival and dipping in and out of administration?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Skolars would seem to make sense, nothing to say that feeder club has to be in the Championship rather than Championship 1.
Anything that raises the playing standards in the lower leagues has to be good for getting people back through the gates IMO. Nobody is talking about these clubs losing their own identities, just linking up with a SL side to benefit from the young players who aren't yet ready for the top level.'"
Using kiddies from sl clubs wont raise standards in the CC,it would actually lower them.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I can. The quality of the competition would be far higher, the players would be more committed (As their future SL careers would be riding on it).
The financial common sense is the best part. The SL club pays the salaries they are currently paying for the players and the Championship club gets better players for less money.
So as Wire's feeder club, Leigh could have had Riley, Higham, Evans, Louie Anderson, Williams etc playing for them for nothing.'"
What makes you think those players would come for nothing?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"What's the problem with that? You would be watching a higher standard and those Championship players missing out would have to prove their worth. That competitive environment would get young players used to it and raise the standard.
It would mean more equipped young players coming through to SL.
What is the alternative? Trying to scramble through from year to year, scraping surivival and dipping in and out of administration?'"
Well you said:
Quote A teams are pointless. It just takes a level of talent off the Championship clubs '"
Feeder teams would be even worse for them.
Also if you have 8 - 10 SL players in the feeder team, then how many Championship players are going to get the chance to prove their worth?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I can. The quality of the competition would be far higher, the players would be more committed (As their future SL careers would be riding on it).
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You can pay to go and watch it then , because I wont be
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Rumours that Wigan are to take over South Wales Scorpions as a feeder team.'"
But not in the same way as the system works in Australia , what the pies are really after is any decent quality Welsh players
Are you suggesting that W1g4n players would train during the week at Orrel , and then nip down to Neath for a training session there ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"You can pay to go and watch it then , because I wont be'"
But will you be anyway? You support Leigh don't you? Hardly a rosy future there at present? It's the same for all the sub-SL clubs. With no realistic prospect of promotion and very little TV revenue, how is it sustainable in the long term?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"What's the problem with that? You would be watching a higher standard and those Championship players missing out would have to prove their worth. That competitive environment would get young players used to it and raise the standard.
It would mean more equipped young players coming through=#FF0000 to SL.
What is the alternative? Trying to scramble through from year to year, scraping surivival and dipping in and out of administration?'"
Which is the only thing this is about , the SL clubs are failing to produce enough quality players for SL and England , so lets bugger up somebody else's competition , enjoy SL , but leave us alone , we have enough of our own problems without having to sort yours out as well
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| Quote ="Starbug"Which is the only thing this is about , the SL clubs are failing to produce enough quality players for SL and England , so lets bugger up somebody else's competition , enjoy SL , but leave us alone , we have enough of our own problems without having to sort yours out as well'"
Which leads us back to the point I posted in the post above about the sustainability of the Championship clubs in the current economic climate.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"But will you be anyway? You support Leigh don't you? Hardly a rosy future there at present? It's the same for all the sub-SL clubs. With no realistic prospect of promotion and very little TV revenue, how is it sustainable in the long term?'"
No I wouldn't , I can just about stomach up to 4 DR players , anything more than that and you can keep it
And yes you are correct , it isn't very ' rosy ' down here and it might not be sustainable , but being a feeder club isnt an option , it would be the end , it might be anyway in a bit
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