For Barrow Raiders and Des Johnson.


Ouch!

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Dewsbury saved. Glad Des Johnson has been banned. Terrible for the game this man has been.

New official table then would look like this:

F'stone 20 18 1 1 840 348 492 0 56
Leigh 20 18 1 1 776 368 408 0 53
Batley 20 12 0 8 498 406 92 5 41
Sheffield 20 12 0 8 577 488 89 3 39
Widnes 20 11 1 8 555 532 23 3 38
Halifax 20 10 0 10 569 543 26 6 36
Hunslet 20 4 1 15 395 630 -235 6 20
York 20 5 1 14 416 788 -372 2 19
Dewsbury 20 4 1 15 413 618 -205 4 18
Toulouse 20 4 0 16 358 663 -305 3 15
Barrow 20 9 0 11 527 540 -13 8 0

Must have been one heck of a technical breach this one!

Good job no SL clubs would ever circumvent the salary cap

8 year ban!! Wow, did he snort coke off the grooves on the Championship trophy? That's a helluva sentence. They did become a really good side - I feel sorry for the Barrow fans.

Strange though isn't it Rich , this is the second time a club has risen rapidly through the leagues only to be found to have been ' Cheating ' , we all knew about both clubs , the RFL however seem to prefer to ignore what is plainly in front of them , as long as the club doing it has some ' value ' to them , ie a potential expansion club for SL

And yes I know Leigh were punished for ' Cheating ' as well , but as they say , the punishment fits the crime , ours was relatively minor and not deliberate

Good ol' cynical Starbug.

If you have evidence of another club persistently circumventing the SC over a number of years, then I think the phrase is: put up or shut up.

btw, that's 'evidence', not 'well everybody knew'

Is that the heavist penalty impose on a club without actually expelling them imposed by the RFL?

This is what should have been done to Wigan.

Questions have to be asked as to why there are different punishments for different clubs for the same offense?

Same offense?

He used the phrase "cheating" not specifically circumventing the salary cap. Cheating could be anything from cap violations, drugs, playing a whole bunch of foreigners who didn't have the correct visas when the rest of the league had only one quota spot...

I think it must be the manner of the offence , if you breach the cap because of say a bonus payment that was unexpected then they fine you and you get telling off , if however you blatantly cheat knowing your going over and pay people in brown paper bags etc then your gonna get slammed... oh wait didn't Wigan do that?

All three Cumbria clubs in the same league. Must the first time in a while thats happened?

Three Cumbrian, Gateshead, two Welsh, London, Oldham, Rochdale and Doncaster... How about that for a geographical spread!

The league nobody wants to be in. I wonder if NASA are putting the space shuttle on ebay for all the away matches next year. Cas & Leeds fans moaned at having to travel to Donny for the CC semi final but look at the trips we've got to make!

Adding onto that what the Workington Chairman has said with the restructure in 2013 could have more "expansion" clubs eg Hemel in the league. Will be truely a national league plus some new grounds for me to tick off news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 183091.stm

Adding onto that what the Workington Chairman has said with the restructure in 2013 could have more "expansion" clubs eg Hemel in the league. Will be truely a national league plus some new grounds for me to tick off news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 183091.stm

It does make me wonder if the solution is to eventually admit some of the stronger clubs from the RLC National and merge the two championship divisions together to set up smaller regional conferences.

....are the rl board when they have decided to punish Barrow so serverely in comparison to
wigan's poultry points deduction for their salary cap breach which overtly saved them from relegation.

THERE NEED TO BE SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS ASKED AND SOME ANSWERS GIVEN BECAUSE THIS
STINKS!

tb has just been pedanted.

No West Yorks or SW Lancs clubs?

Heresy.

The Championship is the new Yorkshire league now; eight out of ten clubs!

That makes Leigh the expansion club! What will Starbug think?

I absolutely agree with you that there does appear to be a double standard often when it comes to the divisions and how they're treated particularly when it comes to disciplinaries but we do not have the full ins and outs of this situation.

What we do know is Barrow's infringements are over a four year period and appear to be a succession of decisions to ignore the rules. With this in mind I don't think they can be outraged about the decision, more of their club's actions under Des Johnson. Whether Wigan were fortunate to stay up as many suspect they were is irrelevant to that.