Is he mentally stable?

Judging by some post match things I've read, he seems to be living in an alternate reality.

In his world, he's some form of badly done to [iuber coach[/i who despite injuries and bad referees has laid down the foundations for great success at hull. Indded all gentle needs to do is hang his name tag up on the door and trophies will role in.

The reality however for everyone it seems, except richard agar is that he's shown himself to be completly out of his depth coaching at this level. Terrible record in derbies knockout games and shocking performances in the league.

A de-motivated team, void of ideas or flair, making basic errors, poor recruitment.

If I was a wakefield fan, i'd be worried.

Not much we as fans can do about it. A fans forum held a month or two ago outlined the supporters discontent with the potential recruitment of Agar, but they still went ahead and appointed him regardless.

All we can do is give him a chance to see what he can do at a club with less expectation on his shoulders. Not holding out much hope though.

Has a rovers fan I wished hull had kept him I would have been very

Richard Agar shows why there are very few British coaches in Super league. His after match comments (following defeats) are baffling at times and he tends to use the same excuses just rotating them after each defeat. He has proven time and again he is not nor never will be a top coach.

I'm just glad he's not our problem anymore.

Actually his after match analyses are usually spot on and accurately identify where things went wrong. The problem is that he was never able to rectify the issues he correctly identified, which is why he used a similar analysis on a regular basis.

To coin a popular phrase...you can't polish a turd. Wayne Bennett couldn't have done anything with our team. The club letting coach after coach pick Horne in the halves was a huge mistake, never was, is or will be a half...ever.

The three decent halves we have had, Head,Dykes and Long were all crocks but when fit showed what a good side we could have been.

Seemingly a fear of spending for a good half back who is fit has held us back for years. Richard Agar is a good coach but you can't play with flair if you don't possess flair players, Like Peter Sharpe he has been hard done by. He has after all taken a very average side into the play offs.

We as Hull FC fans expect our club to be up there with the best seemingly regardless of the playing quality of our team. We are a big name club with a big history, we are not nor have been a force on the pitch since the eighties.

I think our expectations and the pressure we put on our players should be lowered.

Awful coach. Hull have been very lucky with injuries this year (In fairness they deserved some luck). OK Long got injured but Obs has done well. You missed Fitzgibbon but thats a bout it. Hull had the squad to be at least challenging for the top 4. Not scraping into the 8.

Don't see how he's left Hull in a godo place considering hardl anyone has come through the Hull acadmy (apart from Houghton & Briscoe) has any academy layer made their debut this year. Not having a pop at Hull, just saying can't see hhow Agar has keft you in a good position

You can't polish a turd but you can spray some air freshner and make it smell nicer.

Agar effectivley went through months of diaharea without even wiping his bottom (errm think we best stop with the turd analogys).

The point is hull have the potential to be a beacon of rugby league perfection, agar turned them into a skidmark on the underpants of the game. (whoops!)


I can only imagine what seasoned pros like fitzgibbon were thinking when they had to listen to some delusional fool talking about fitting round pegs into square holes

Like 99% of posters on here I'm glad to see the back of him. He had obviously had a charisma bypass and failed miserably in his "communicating with the fans exam". I actually feel sorry for Wakey but am really looking forward to next season and seeing what a real coach can do.

we'll find out if he's a real HEAD coach next year, at the moment he's just an assistant that has stepped up

Terrible record. He's had the time and failed miserably. He continually picks players out of position. He has brought through nobody since he's been at Hull. The only players from our academy that he's given debuts are:
Ash Thackray (1 sub appearance in 200icon_cool.gif
Josh Hodgson (2 sub appearances in 2009)
Cunningham (1 sub appearance in 2010)
Nicklas (3 sub appearances in 2010)
Lyne (5 starts and 1 sub appearances in 2010, same in 2011)

Briscoe was debuted by Sharpe.

So in 3 and a half seasons, Agar has managed a total of 10 starts and 9 sub appearances for our academy players. In 94 SL games and 2 play-off games, that's all he's attempted to blood despite some awful injury records that normally force clubs to blood youngsters. Instead, he's chosen to keep average squad players and play them out of position which has been successful very little. He makes very strange interchanges at weird times, sometimes choosing not to even use some, or bringing them on for 5 minutes at the end of the game.

The guy is a clueless idiot IMO. I feel very sorry for Wakefield as they're going to have to endure this next year and for however long the club choose to stick by him.

And to top it off, Agar is now signing players from his last club that he would only start in positions that weren't natural to them and dropping them because of their performances in those positions! I don't get it!?

He's a great coach. wigan, wire, hudds and saints should all give him a couple of seasons before he gets a lifelong contract as head coach with hull kr. Talent like that should be spread around

You don't have to!

As has been pointed out to the steady stream of gloaters (including you iirc) on the WTW board since the announcement was made, he's our problem now and even those of us who didn't want him, will have to support him - what choice do we have?

For all your sakes, I hope Mr Gentle doesn't turn out to be an expensive dud at Hull FC; I can't imagine the carnage there'll be on the terraces of the KC if he doesn't do the triple for you next season; it would for example be a crying shame if him and his bezzy mate Bomber (and their shared agent) set up a cozy little mates club there, taking millions out of the club whilst still achieving absolutely nothing. Probably.

Yes because Adam Pearson is well-known for his lax management style

Nothing for you to worry about then, apart from the fortunes of Wakefield Trinity, apparently.

Eh?

Apart from wishing you all the best with Agar, I couldn't give a toss what happens to you. I was responding to one of your numptie fellow-supporters, who seems to think that Bomber & Gentle are purely looking to line their pockets as quickly as possible.

Wow. Just wow.

First of all, you recall incorrectly. I wouldn't wish Agar on anyone (except Hull KR). He has ruined watching RL for me over the last three years with his poor style of managing and coaching a squad. On your club forum, I was questioning his signing of Hull players he essentially rejected from our first team.

As for your little paddy on the end, unlike our previous board, the fans have confidence that AP would do what is needed to be done if things go slack (unlike Hetherington and co who just sat back and let the club spiral under Agar). He has a great record. McRae and Gentle know they won't be in for an easy ride without results, so would be stupid to sit back and do very little (does this happen anywhere?!).

Oh, and the KC doesn't have terraces. It's all-seater.

Read again - I didn't say I thought that's what they [iwere[/i doing. What I actually said was:

Nobody is worried about the fortunes of Wakefield. We just have a passing interest on how our coach (who has drained the life out of the fans for three years) will do, especially as he is also taking some of our players with him (the ones he deemed weren't good enough for us, but apparently thinks are good enough for you?). That's not meant as a dig at Wakefield. That's meant as a dig at Agar's thinking.

Great - then what I said would be a crying shame if it did happen has no chance of happening at all, under any circumstances whatsoever; happy days.

You said it was probably what they were doing.

It is. Good times.

Just make sure Agar doesn't get too pally with the board at tour place like he did here or else you'll never get rid of him.

This is hilarious.

A new coach joins a club and their fans attitude is ''he's our problem now''





Agar will have to spend alot od time in the offseason formulating defeat excuses, so he has more to rotate! Then he can trick the wakefield fans!

Apparently he was already mates with Trinity's CEO.