Steveo Made a great comment on air today about the "other Sport" not dealing with forward passes as well as league. This had to be a joke right?

Superleague has been absolutly shocking this year for forward passes. Refs seem to be ignoring passes to allow try scoring opertunities. When are the RFL going to crack down on this? It's making a mockery of the game. What the hell are the touch judges there for?

Rugby Union is a lot worse tbf.

Another ridiculous decision. Another inept set of officials. Rugby League is all about innovating, so how about we become the first sport to do away with onfield officials completely? The touch judge officially responsible for 'missing' that should be struck off. How every single person in the whole ground can spot it but him is beyond me. Or perhaps he did see it fine and just isn't allowed to do anything about it?

Its the inconsistency that bugs me, some teams get away with forwards all the time and then the same referees will pull perfectly good passes as forward for others.

I thought the ref had a terrific game but saints were let back into the game by a Sam Tomkins knoc-on which didn't happen and got a dodgy pen.....

As ever in RL or any sport for that matter, taking your chances wins games. We got battered in the forwards.

All in all, touch judges are useless and are just there now to wave the little flag around and try look important.

The refs ignore them OR they miss every forward pass

they can't tell the ref (or again, are ignored) when the defence are offside.

And as seen in the Dewsbury game yesterday, some don't even know when the ball goes between the posts it's a conversion.

Is this the same ref/touch judge that said Paul Deacon knocked on off his face?

Or did he say Tomkins was accidentally offside

Wouldn't you have had a penalty if this was the case? I'm sure it was a scrum, with a Saints head and feed?

No it was a scrum + S Tomkins was behind Deacon anyway.

Don't hear you complaining about that.

And to be fair that is only debatable call in the whole game you can pick on. It didn't cause us to score either as it happened in the middle of the field.

The pass you scored your first try off was just ridiculous. You saw it at the time, all your players did, your coach even apparently called it forward at the time on sky. If it were borderline I wouldn't have minded, but when it comes out at an angle like that and is so blatantly forward it's frustrating.

It's about time the RFL invest in some competent officials to run the lines. Instead of a group of geeks who are doing the job because they are the only people to put their hand up to do it, they should have a group of professional officials doing the job properly.

Dunno, I'm not paid to referee SL matches. I've always had accidental offside down as a scrum, but I might be wrong. Maybe there is a bit of small print in the rules about it hitting pink head guards as well?

There is no debate about this what so ever. The same goes for Wigans forward pass. The play from the scrum led to you first try to get back in the game, you wouldn't have been in that situation without the ludicrous call made by the ref.

So lets straighten this out, you're not ed off at the officials for being poor, you're ed off because they called it against St Helens.

It always annoys you a bit more when it's against you. But the standard of officiating in SL is at an all time low and doesn't do the sport justice. It's time things changed.

It quite funny how the one-eye fans spit the dummy big time when a call goes against them.(Just check your original post

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But yes you're right about the officiating, abysmal.

the only time forward passes will be penalised more often in rl is when the nrl(we always follow suit) outlaw the flat pass and the momentum rule. at full speed the officials have a hard time judging forward passes if flat passes n the momentum rule is taken into consideration.and do we really want a video ref decision every time a pass is possibly forward,as that is the only surefire way to get them all

It's not about getting them all, it's about employing officials that can call on the obvious. If players are moving at full speed after a break, the ref is running flat out to keep up and the pass is quick and short no one minds that kind of mistake. But when the referee is perfectly positioned, the touch judge in line with the pass and the pass is a relatively slow pass from a player stood on a line which gives a perfect judge of direction and you see it leave his hands diagonally towards the oppoistion line you expect them to notice.

It's those kind of moments where the Video Referee (Without those watching knowing if needs be) says "Hang about, miles forward Woody, give it forward". Or even a guy sat in the stands with a radio.

That or bring in an appeal system cricket stylee. No video referee and up to three referalls per game, as per cricket being used up if unsuccessful. They say they cannot use the video for forward passes because of angles and the like, but that is rubbish. They can do it, they just haven't bothered yet. I could invent the required tech in seconds, just throw a GPS into the ball. If it records a forward motion from the hands, it explodes once it hits the hands of the receiving player. Job done and it makes it more spectacular for Sky, which they would be delighted with.

Your personal outstanding efforts to do this would be appreciated by the RFL

Exactly, given my abilities I would be passing the exams within a month and on Sky merrily waving off Wigan tries within 2.

Are you a ref Leaguefan? You always seem to defend them when I state the truth on here about the officials.

indeed. they say VR cant deal with forward passes, but the sky team who have the benefit of multiple monitors with multiple camera feeds almost always call forward passes as forward passes, and they like the rest of us watching the game on TV (fed to us through CAMERAS) almost always get it right. especially with exmaples like todays.
im also all for the exploding ball

Time to use the video ref and bollox to "the problems with angles". They get so many wrong now that even if they got a few wrong with the VR it wouldn't be as many as without. It's a joke these days.

What goes around, comes around. Saints fans seem to be forgetting about the Meli try in Cardiff to get Saints a draw...