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| Jeff Lima - 2 match ban so out of WCC.
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| Godwin - 2 matches.
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| 2 matches for Murphy's disgraceful spear tackle.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"2 matches for Murphy's disgraceful spear tackle.'"
Disgraceful is a bit harsh.
Clumsy - yes, but it wasn't a deliberate effort to put the Cas player beyond the horizontal & IMO you can only describe a deliberate spear tackle as disgraceful.
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| Quote ="RDM"Disgraceful is a bit harsh.
Clumsy - yes, but it wasn't a deliberate effort to put the Cas player beyond the horizontal & IMO you can only describe a deliberate spear tackle as disgraceful.'"
He quite clearly intended to spear, accidental spears and deliberate ones are easy to tell apart, Murphy looked to lift him into a dangerous position - he should have seen a card in the game.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"He quite clearly intended to spear, accidental spears and deliberate ones are easy to tell apart, Murphy looked to lift him into a dangerous position - he should have seen a card in the game.'"
I agree that he intended to lift the leg, but this was in an attempt to complete the tackle. IMO it was accidental (mainly though the momentum added by the second player in the tackle) that the Cas player went beyond the horizontal.
Wouldn't have seen anything wrong with a yellow card in the match & don't think that - in isolation - there's much complaint about the ban (due to the carelessness), but given the events of the last 24 hours or so it does feel like yet another kick while we're down.
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| His mistake was intentionally lifting the leg - this always has the potential to turn into a spear tackle. I think his ban might also take into considertion that he had the opportunity to pull out and remove his hand as the tackle progressed, but chose not to. Normal procedure for 'accidental' lifting is usually to pull out of the tackle altogether and apologise immediately if the other player lands on his head. Not to do so makes it look deliberate.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"His mistake was intentionally lifting the leg - this always has the potential to turn into a spear tackle. I think his ban might also take into considertion that he had the opportunity to pull out and remove his hand as the tackle progressed, but chose not to. Normal procedure for 'accidental' lifting is usually to pull out of the tackle altogether and apologise immediately if the other player lands on his head. Not to do so makes it look deliberate.'"
your talking Korean meatballs mate
no way deliberate
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| It wasn't deliberate. He was attempting to lift the leg, not tip him into a spear position. Personally a 1 match ban or a sin-binning at the time would do in my opinion. 2 matches seems a tad harsh.
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| Steve snitch 1 game ban against the giants
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| How many matches will this lot be banned for after appeals. I bet Lima plays in the WCC. I have no faith at all in the system to stand firm.
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"How many matches will this lot be banned for after appeals. I bet Lima plays in the WCC. I have no faith at all in the system to stand firm.'"
amen brother
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"How many matches will this lot be banned for after appeals. I bet Lima plays in the WCC. I have no faith at all in the system to stand firm.'"
Doesn't look like Wigan will be appealing the ban, Lima pleaded guilty.
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"How many matches will this lot be banned for after appeals. I bet Lima plays in the WCC. I have no faith at all in the system to stand firm.'"
I'll take that bet if you fancy it?
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| should have taken a leaf out of the Aussies book and found no case to answer!
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| Quote ="Gaslight"He quite clearly intended to spear, accidental spears and deliberate ones are easy to tell apart, Murphy looked to lift him into a dangerous position - he should have seen a card in the game.'"
No-one was 'speared'.
A spear tackle requires someone to be turned upside down and [ito have their head driven into the turf[/i anything short of that is possibly dangerous but not a 'spear tackle'. Using such pointless and emotive language serves no purpose.
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| Quote Wakefield Trinity Wildcats centre Aaron Murphy tonight won his appeal against the two-match ban imposed for a dangerous throw, lift and drop in the 29th minute of the Wildcats’ defeat by Castleford Tigers at Cardiff’s Millennium Stadium on Saturday.
The offence was reduced from Grade C to Grade A on appeal after the tribunal viewed a video showing the incident from a different angle to the ones presented at the original hearing on Tuesday.
The appeals tribunal ruled that Murphy was guilty of a lesser offence and ordered that the original £300 fine was sufficient punishment. Murphy was also warned about his future tackling technique.'"
Not a spear tackle then.
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| So it was bad enough to still warrant a fine but not a ban? RFL
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| Pathetic from the RFL
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| farce. how the hell was that not a ban?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Pathetic from the RFL'"
Probably got away with it so wakey have enough players to play in their match on Saturday, and this isn't a dig at wakey, just the way I see it..
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| So in Murphy's case they held a hearing without all the evidence. One night footage from one angle then the following night hey presto a new angle. What a farce.
As for Lima I am sure Wigan's under 12s will be playing Wigan St Pats between now and the WCC and that will count as a game. They will have something up their sleeve I am sure.
While we are betting Bailey back for Leeds on Friday, I bet he is up before the Beak next week.
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| They missed Kirk Yeaman spitting at Blake Green. That should be punished disgusting to watch.
You can view the footage on you tube by searching for Naughty,naughty,sulky kirky!
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| Quote ="RDM"[uDisgraceful is a bit harsh.[/u
Clumsy - yes, but it wasn't a deliberate effort to put the Cas player beyond the horizontal & IMO you can only describe a deliberate spear tackle as disgraceful.'"
It would seem to be the case.
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